The Ultimate Champion

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 7, 2013 -> 03:09 PM) He needs to outplay Beckham, realistically, to get his job back. Keppinger could play 2B. Yeah, cuz you throw in the towel on Beckham to justify Keppinger's contract. Makes sense. All these exciting offseason moves really bring on the feeling that we're going for it this year.

I'd love to see Morel rise from the ashes and put the past behind him, put up a fight like a dog & win a spot on this team. Play 3B, hit the baseball, all the good stuff. Otherwise I have a feeling it'll be July & I'll be referring to our starting 3B as "Krap-in-jar," although it probably wouldn't be here at that point, but I'd go find Lamar (wherever he is) and tell him all my funny jokes & we'd be like two peas in a pod.

A sinister Ross Gload cackles like a witch at both Tex & Carlos May.

IMO Viciedo, Quintana, Beckham, and Veal all provide reasons for hope. And I know everyone is down on Beckham, but he seems to be doing well under Manto & he's a good kid with the right work ethic. OTOH, omit Dunn's 2011 entirely and he's still been on the slide for a while. I expect worse out of him. AJ to Flowers, at best, is a slight loss due to Flowers' D, but it's probably a big gap in the end. AJ's arm aside, our entire organization has been s*** managing against the running game for how many years now? AJ's arm has been way overstated. Alexei may go up a little, Alex a little down, and in the end maybe there's a wash, but I could also see Alex falling apart again and Alexei staying right where he is, which is overall a substantial loss. ADA should be right about at his ceiling now. If he sustains it, great, but he's no shoe-in for another good year. Peavy and Sale could, combined, equal or slightly improve on their numbers. The bullpen is all wildcards really outside of a couple vets in Thornton and Crain, i.e. there is some definite talent there and reason for optimism but it's still a Major League bullpen with a lot of pre-arb parts. The biggest gain is a healthy John Danks and a potentially a rededicated contract year Gavin Floyd pitching out of 2 spots that were pretty much garbage the whole of last year. All in all, I don't see us doing anything in the end. Hopefully Detroit chokes on itself again so baseball is fun through the summer, otherwise I expect this team to pass through the deadline as just good enough to keep all the parts we should have already traded.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 06:32 AM) Harper and Trout have f***ed up reality for baseball fans. I'd say it's the entire TB Rays organization. I say, as a fan, don't even think about trying to emulate their success. It doesn't happen, and it is probably even more of a pipedream than trying to be the Yankees/Dodgers/etc. and run out a $200M payroll every season. Most minor league talent just doesn't pan out like that.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 06:39 AM) If Courtney Hawkins doesnt show something this season in the majors, we should probably look into trading him This in meant as a joke but in actuality it is not necessarily a bad idea to trade a prospect the world is high on 2-3 years before he would be expected to do anything. Hawkins is actually the type of prospect other teams will want IMO.

I made a rule to vote 5 times per SoxTalk check.. it only takes a second & you can vote multiple times. Hopefully MHizzle wins but if not then damn, it better be this girl.http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/fancave/vote.jsp?fliqzid=60db842f920f4b69b5952ebd8b6c7d44 (didn't vote for her though, she's an A's fan).

I'm only voting for you because you're a fight fan. I will do my part & vote every time I check SoxTalk until you inevitably win.

Hawk has long argued for the expansion of the active roster to 26. With the increasing specialization of the game (more platoon roles, 4th OFers and UT players seeming to get more time, etc.) and the bullpens being managed as they are, would this move be good for baseball? My immediate thought would be yes, and I think it could make low budget teams a bit more competitive as well by allowing them to take on a permanent platoon position featuring 2 lower salary players vs. a higher salary starter who can't hit both lefties and righties. Also I think it would increase the likelihood of Michael Morse/Jayson Werth/Ryan Ludwick scenarios where a "bust" gets playing time and becomes a highly paid starter. What does SoxTalk think about this?

An anagram for "Gordon Beckham" is "Bench Mark Good," which would appear to bode well for bench players on our team named Mark. Do we have anyone on our benched named Mark? I don't know. It's hard to even care anymore.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Jan 26, 2013 -> 11:27 AM) Hooray! An article about a player's weight! Spring training must be approaching This is actually the 2nd most exciting development of this offseason. I'm pumped.

^Also I will add that Hahn will get massive amounts of credit if it turns out that all these pieces he is keeping keep it up or turn into better players that become worth more later. If for example Gavin has a great year and helps us win a division then Hahn will get loads of credit for doing nothing, because that was the best course of action. But I think Hahn doing nothing sets us back so I am prepared to criticize him until he takes some steps that would appear to make this team better in the future.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 06:08 AM) I have no problem criticizing upper management, or the manager himself, or players, or anything. Yes you quite obviously do. How do I know? Because you follow this sentence with this: QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 19, 2013 -> 06:08 AM) However, from this point forward, anything involving Hahn "bring on life support" will be taken as an insult and will lead to suspensions and/or bans. The only difference between, say, comparing Hahn to a hibernating bear while comparing Alex Anthopoulus to a squirrel in fall, and saying Hahn has done little/nothing while AA has been very busy, is a metaphor. Are we supposed to can the metaphor or something? Every negative metaphor Hahn has received this year he has earned through his own very real inactivity. When Hahn actually does something - and signing your own arb-eligible players is not *something,* neither is retaining a minor league coaching staff or any of the other "basic maintenance" aspects of an organization - then he will get credit for it. And if he pulls off deals like Kenny did during the season last year, all those great things that I and other posters said about Kenny will again be said about Hahn. No one here wants this team to be garbage and no one here wants them to miss the opportunity to improve, and to me, Hahn has missed the boat.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 03:49 PM) This is so, so, so wrong. This is so wrong. You really think it's better to make a bad move than to make no move at all? That's how guys like Juan Pierre end up making $12m/year in his mid-30's. Because teams decided it was "time to spend" rather than deciding on what was worth money. That's how the Marlins end up spending a bajillion dollars on one star and two solid regulars and still suck. Should we sign Kyle Lohse to a 4 year deal coming off his fluky career year because he's the best SP left on the market? There's definitely a good chance he'd make our rotation better next year. My point was more along the lines of not being afraid to act. Everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are necessary if you want to learn anything. A GM will make mistakes but a good one will learn from those. As long as a GM is acting on good information and is doing the right things at the right times, i.e. going for it when the contention window is there, building toward a new contention window when the current one seems to have closed, etc. then as long as he's primarily signing *proven* talent and trading *unproven* prospects with speculative value which (see: Molina, Nestor) can crash abruptly, then more often than not he's going to be on the right end of things. I see Hahn as being afraid to make a move. Kenny's aggression was a wonderful quality and I miss it. While others may not want to immediately hold Rick Hahn up to KW standards, I do. As a fan I expect an excellent General Manager running things. As far as Lohse you have a point, although I am not sure he ever would have been a Hahn/Sox under anyone target, and I really doubt we're looking to add salary. However, that Floyd trade which never happened would have given us salary room, and in theory, getting something of value for Floyd and then turning around and recommitting those funds to another area makes the organization's future appear brighter since talent would have been added overall, talent also with expiration dates beyond 2013 like Floyd. But going with Lohse as an example, signing Lohse to a 3 year deal, trading Floyd for parts/prospects, and then dealing off Lohse after 1-2 seasons and dumping salary probably is a lot less riskier than losing Floyd for nothing when just about everyone needs starting pitching. I will applaud Hahn if and when he does something right. He has no leash with me since he's failed already. At least 2 of Crain/Thornton/Floyd should have been gone with at least one good young piece coming back who is ready to compete for a job in ST 2013. He's done jack.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 03:05 PM) If the Sox had hit on an occasional draft pick or signing during this time period, some of Williams deals become unnecessary. Again, it is a secondary level effect of neglecting the farm system. Instead of developing a CF at some point, we had to try to trade for them on multiple occasions. Actually the failure of KW to acquire a CF for multiple years was one of Kenny's biggest misses. But he had Sweeney and Anderson on the farm who were supposed to be good one day, plus Chris Young who KW was vilified for, etc. and then Joe Borchard was a CF prospect for a time, and a huge one, as was Jeremy Reed, and all of these guys were at one time very highly touted and consensus ranked top prospects, with a couple being elite in the game. The farm had CF penciled in as more of a strength in terms of prospect depth, but they didn't turn out. If you're going to blame Kenny and say he failed because these guys didn't turn out then go ahead and call everyone else in the game, every GM and every talent evaluator who also liked these players when they were prospects, failures too. Kenny doesn't deserve to be criticized for BA not listening to his coaches or Sweeney not acquiring that power he was supposed to develop, but he does deserve to be criticized for running out Jerry Owens and DeWayne Wise as starting CFs and opening up with Grinderstad in CF as opposed to anyone with any kind of long-term organizational value. So yeah, you hit on one potential area for KW criticism, but only kind of by accident, like when Mike MacDougal found the strikezone.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 02:56 PM) It's probably worth noting that the suddenly-canonized Kenny Williams is still in the front office. It is unlikely that Hahn is sitting on his hands without some level of input and agreement from Williams. Hey I canonized Kenny a long damn time ago. Kenny has his Reinsdorfian golden parachute retirement prize position now. Sure he's "in the front office" on your computer screen should you take the time to visit whitesox.com but in reality he's on a beach somewhere and the only thing he's scouting is ass. And here I am freezing my balls off getting all worked up over Alejandro DeAza's trade value. Thanks Rick.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) Because of the terrible emphasis, both on the draft and foreign scouting, there is no telling who else we missed on drafting or signing. The easy way out is to only point at trades. It goes much deeper than that. Again, how much of this is Kenny? The difference between a "stacked" draft under the old CBA and a middling typical Sox draft may have only been a couple million dollars in overslot bonuses to players who fell. The difference between a productive international signing period and your typical middling Sox international signing period is, again, generally a couple million dollars under the old system. For about a $4M difference you are going to go from heading toward a mid-tier farm system in the general rankings from the bottom of the pack, and the Sox constantly avoided doing it. Do you honestly think KW, who in spite of a generally weak farm was still among the most active GMs in the game, is going to hamstring himself over the price of a bench player or two, or one middle reliever? This was JR sticking to his guns, not KW believing the farm is unimportant. And as far as some of those bad 1st round picks it is very unclear how much of that is really on Kenny. Kenny wanted Schueler gone apparently for a long while before he was dismissed. Kenny also wanted Ozzie gone long before he was dismissed. Way too much responsibility was given to Wilder and obviously the proper checks and balances in the DR were not in place. Blaming Kenny for EVERYTHING is just perfectly acceptable in terms of your general "X is responsible anyone below him" thinking as this is at least supposed to be a well-structured organization but if you apply that to Kenny then you need to look above him as well. Kenny did very well within what we know was his sphere, but we also know that he didn't have full control over those decisions one would normally think a GM has full control over. You don't tell your hitting coach to clean his locker out only to welcome him back through the door 5 mins later just because you had a sudden change of heart.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) Why was the Z capitalized? I was fuming with anger and the fingers were flying and I was just absolutely beside myself and so I accidentally hit the shift key in my ferocious typing tornado and capitalized a z mid-word improperly which I am sure was only one of several key errors including apparently some logical ones which kept me from forming a proper arguement. Oh and I am a rebel too which is why I am not going to go back and fix that red underlined word immediately to my left. Can y6ou spot it? I can. Thank you red line.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) I really liked Kenny as GM, but this is one place where Kenny failed. As general manager Kenny Williams was in charge of the distribution of assets. He made the conscious decision to put money and minor league players into acquiring major league players. He is the one who put the emphasis elsewhere, not Hahn, or anyone else. He wanted to win and so did Jerry. He wasn't going to routinely go over slot for anyone. Remember what a big deal it was for the Sox to go over slot for Jordan Danks in IIRC the 6th round? The Sox competition did this s*** all the time without thinking about it, but with the Sox it was a big deal. This is Jerry, not Kenny. And again, WHO ARE WE ACTUALLY MISSING? Hudson? Gio? Carter? Morse? That's all I can think of. One of the biggest knocks on KW re: moves he made was teh 2nd Swisher deal, dumping him for nothing and signing Viciedo with some of that cash. That however was actually the right attitude to have in wanting to drop a clubhouse cancer and had the organization - i.e. JERRY REINSDORF - allowed Kenny to continue with that mindset in 2010 then Ozzie's ass would have been out the door and for all we know that much-maligned Edwin Jackson-Hudson deal could have helped result in at least 1, if not 2, playoiff appearances and who knows after that. The KW hate is thick here. Kenny is an icon and a man of great stature period. He is like Mark and AJ, do great things for the organiZation and watch the fans turn on you.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 11:56 AM) If you walk blindly into traffic, you might make it to the other side. Nobody knows! Of course, you could look down the street both ways, or wait for the crosswalk to cross, using other information you have to come to a relatively safe conclusion. And of course, there are scouting reports, statistics, reports, and any number of other evaluative tools used that help determine that these guys have potential. I don't know, you're right, but you don't either. And, just for s***s and giggles, do you remember how many trades Williams made prior to the 2005 season? Two. Lee for Podsednik, Vizcaino, and Hinton, and Alex Escobar for Jerry Owens. And you know how many trades he made during the season? One - Ryan Meaux for Geoff Blum. You are calling for action when your hero didn't do s*** on the trade market prior to winning a World Series. He really didn't have much success other than that year either. Kenny claimed Jenks and added him to the roster. He traded CLee for Pods & Viz. He signed Iguchi. He signed Hermanson. He signed Dye. Politte he IIRC took a flyer on the year before, same with Contreras, but both were really 2005 projects just like Rios was more a 2010 move than a 2009 move. He signed AJ, he signed El Duque. That was the most active Sox offseason I can remember and you're trying to boil it down to 2 trades, one of which was inconsequential both short and long term. As far as action, he claimed some 4th OF from San Diego and signed a UT player to be a starter. This could be Teahen again for all we know. Peavy is what it is. My problem is that this organization NEEDS action. Hahn is standing on the sidewalk pushing the Walk button and nothing is happening. There aren't any cops around, but should he go? Should he really break the law? That would make him a criminal. Wait, there's an old lady 3/4 a mile down the ropad barely breakiing 20. Should he go? Should he go? If he stays then he's definitely not going to get hurt. Coast is clear, but maybe the cop is hiding behind a bush. He's probably stoned so that's a very plausible scenario for him at the moment. He's probably hungry too. There's a chicken place down the road and as soon as the old lady passes - provided he sees no cop and no other cars are coming at the time - he'll go. But only because he's hungry and only if the Walk button lights up like it's supposed to,. You my friend are giving Mr. Hahn way too much credit for doing nothing at all. You are assuming he's making all these smart business decisions holding onto players he could trade, not clearing salary for players he'd like to sign, etc. But while it is bad to go out and actively make a mistake it is a whole lot worse to sit around with a bong in your hand waiting for that mistake to come find *you.* One quick example I'm, going to make is with DeAza. I need to get back to work but Rick Hahn is f***ing me over right now with his inactivity. DeAza has only one good season on his resume; he's a former 4th OF contender who has overachieved and worked his ass off to a starting role; he's a gamer and a battler at the plate, and a good learner, but nothing he does wows anyone. He is arb-eligible also and could easily, on paper, fall below his pay at some point in the near future OR become expensive. He's the kind of guy who toiled in the minors and fought injury and might be amenable to a team-friendly 3-5 year deal that could save someone a lot of money, but he could also be a bad contract waiting to happen. Either way the clock is on and ticking. And no matter what position you play him, you see it as public record that he is uncomfortable in CF and when watching him you can see that for yourself. We all at SoxTalk, as intelligent baseball fans, know that right now Alejandro DeAza has value. The Sox shopping him would seem to indicate he is not expected to be a core player on the next great Sox team, for whatever reason which none of us would know. Either DeAza goes now for whatever his value is now and we get *something* or we wait and see. If we wait and see, he would have to well exceed last years performance to well up his value since, while a 2nd good season makes him more desirable, it also is counteracted by making him more expensive, less likely to sign an extension before FA, etc. DeAza's 2012 production seems to be pretty close to his ceiling. So if he's not supposed to be part of the long-term plans then what are we waiting for? What great event is supposed to happen in the next 6-12 months of Alejandro DeAza's career that will make it worth holding on to him now? To me he reminds me of the Royals with DeJesus, where they held on to him far too long. Keeping DeAza IMO is juist as big a risk as trading him, and if he has a bad April going into May, this board is going to be furious with Hahn and for very good reason. A good GM is good at both identifying risks and positioning himself to guard against some of the worst possible ones. Hahn has shown me nothing that says he's anything but scared. KW held onto Borchard until he became a full bust. He held onto Danny Wright & Jon Rauch way too long too. He tried Kip Wells at a good time but for the wrong player; he traded Gio at the right time TWICE but finally for a good player who let him down. Kenny knows what he's doing and he needs to come back & make me feel safe again.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 09:36 AM) For the first time that I can remember, the White Sox have enough talent in the minor leagues that I can look at it and safely believe that they will have atleast 5 steady contributors from that system at the MLB level at some point in time within the next 3-4 years. I look at it and see a guy who has superstar potential in Courtney Hawkins and a couple of different pitchers who have top of the rotation talent. I'm not sure if people wanted Hahn to deal from that and get marginal upgrades at best or shred it Veeck style to sell off for maybe one or two playoff runs, or to sign free agents which cripple the team's long-term financial goals, or to blow up and absolutely forego any sort of chance at competition in the next 3-5 years while cutting attendance by about 20% starting next year. Do any of those make sense? There are probably 5-10 things wrong with this post but I'm just going to grab onto this one because it is by far the most glaring. Who are you to say we have 5 key contributors on the farm just by looking at some prospect list? Nobody knows, that is why prospects are traded. In very recent history the Sox have gotten more out of non-prospects/hardly mentionable players like Quintana, Santiago, Alexei who was dogged by evaluators, DeAza, Jones, etc. than they got out of all those great Jeff Abbotts and Joe Borchards and so on. All these great players the Royals just traded away may all be busts,. You don't know, neither do I, and so you have no reason to believe Courtney Hawkins or anyone else is going to be a good player just because Keith Law finally likes a Sox prospect. Guess what? He loved Mitchell too, but now everyone hates Mitchell. People here were saying how good Jordan Danks was going to be. There are always potentially impactful prospects in the minors and this will never change as long as pro scouts are out scouting and MLB clubs are handing out bonuses. Whether their names appear on lists or not, nobody knows what they are going to do and so you can't credit a guy for hanging on to players few of us really know anything at all about and players whose futures are totally up in the air. And really, who here wants to trade prospects for win-now vets? It seems this site wants to continue to build toward the future anyway. Regardless, Hahn hasn't taken any direction.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 15, 2013 -> 09:42 AM) I agree that the price we will pay now and a few years into the future is the result of Kenny being ultra aggressive. And this is simply incorrect. Look at all the good players we have. Who acquired them? Kenny Williams, usually by being aggressive. Now look at who else is out there that we once had down on the farm but who is now performing elsewhere.... it's Gio who he traded for several years of 1B/OF candidate Swisher, who was very talented and just got paid, and then there's injured and perennially overrated Dan Hudson who was sent out for Jackson, who was supposed to help us win during the 2010-11 massive payroll spike. Who else is out there ater that? Morse? Carter possibly if he can keep it up. Who else? One of the biggest knocks on KW is the farm system. This was NOT Kenny. Kenny, under Reinsdorf, wasn't going to abuse the system. You can blame Kenny for the personnel involved, especially the ones who picked players like Whisler, Broadway, McCulloch, etc. but that's about it. What have we seen from Hahn thaty says he's any better at evaluating talent than Kenny Williams? Nothing. If anything, I think most of the Sox personnel problems, whether it was Ozzie, Dave Wilder, the skimming scouts, etc. came from lack of proper oversight/too long of a leash being given out. This extends from the top down and in those respects no one should expect things to change much under Hahn. Think about what Kenny did after 2006 for example, after we finished 3rd in the division after running out one of, if not *the* most talented all-around team in baseball that year. In a 2 year span Kenny added multi-year pieces in Floyd, Danks, Quentin, Ramirez, and the thought was that Swisher was one too. We lost Chris Carter and Gio, big whoopie. Fans b**** about the '07 pen and laugh at the '08 Griffey deadline deal, but Kenny got a contributor in Griffey for the short bit he played, and that '07 pen was stacked with big arms who all could have gone the way Jones did last year, but didn't, because baseball is baseball and a very difficult game to predict. But after '06 Kenny had a lot less to work with than Hahn does now, and he extended out a new window by being aggressive and making the big move. Hahn has done jack. Hahn deserves no credit. Kenny set him up to do work and he's done nothing but play Halo on XBox for all anyone can tell.

Back to the baseball side of things, what is really annoying me about this offseason is that we were in prime position to better set us up for the future and we have done absolutely nothing (I'm not counting Peavy because that's all him; Sox lowballed him & he took it). Keppinger is the only move and that's probably a bad deal in 1.5-2 years anyway. Thornton, Crain, and Floyd all should have had some value for sure. It's doubtful any of them are getting the QO and the Sox seem pretty likely to be a middling team that does just enough to keep the parts into August but not enough to really threaten for the division. We'll probably lose all 3 for nothing after the year when they could have brought back a couple decent (if unspectacular) prospects/projects, especially if some cash is included. Selling high on Rios may have been an option. We really don't know. It's hard to have faith in him and it's disappointing he's still here. At least the DBacks had interest in Alexei Ramirez. If we had a shot at moving his contract now and we still didn't, then there's a good chance that was a real big mistake. Maybe the worst part is hearing that DeAza & Viciedo are apparently not in the Sox long-term plans and yet they too are still here. Why? Viciedo I understand if the offers weren't there, as you don't want to give up that potential for so little, but DeAza? What are the odds he stays healthy and repeats or betters his performance? He's a LF who wants to play LF and you already think he's getting expensive, so you keep him? Strange. Hahn's offseason has been garbage. There was a fork in the road and instead of picking a direction he pulled off the road and took a nap. Now Soxtalk is all "me against the mods" and more bulls*** about attendance and ownership. It's all because of you Rick Hahn. Wake up.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jan 10, 2013 -> 02:03 PM) Are you happy with ownership? I am. 2003 was a great team on paper considering the talent, but the players choked on the Twins. Sox added Everett, Alomar, Schoenweis, Scott Sullivan IIRC, they really tried. 2004 the Sox tried again, but Thomas & Maggs went down. But the Sox were still looking to pick up Carlos Delgado who blocked a deal here, plus they acquired Freddy & Contreras that season. IMO they went above & beyond that year. 2005 we won it. 2006 we went for it & arguably fielded the most talented team in baseball that year, again on paper. But, again, the players choked on the Twins and championships aren't won on paper. 2007 was horrible, blame the Sox for that if you want. 2008 wasn't a great team, but they had a high payroll, acquired Swisher over the offseason, Griffey at the deadline, etc. Again, they tried. 2009 still tried again, at least somewhat, and claimed Rios. Blame ownership there if you want to, but still there's the high payroll. 2010 they got Peavy, 2011 they went "all-in" with the highest payroll in Sox history, etc. It's pretty ridiculous to call out ownership when ownership has clearly been trying to win for most of the last decade or so. Ownership can't play for the players. Ozzie & his coaching staff made things a lot worse than they could have been, but the highly paid veteran talent on the field is where most of the blame lies. The only complaint on Reinsdorf over the last 10+ years should be his approach to the amateur draft & international free agency, but as has been stated a thousand times on this board, mostly by The Ultimate Champion himself, Jerry was the one guy in the room with enough respect for himself & the game to play by the rules while everyone else abused them. On principle alone I can't fault JR for being a true man of his word, even if it pissed me off as a Sox fan to watch good players fall past the Sox to sign overslot bonuses with other teams & also to watch top international prospects get snapped up via big bonuses without the Sox even being mentioned as a team with scouts in attendance. But now that the system has changed the Sox are playing alongside everyone else & all is well. No reason to b**** about JR at all other than if you're trolling. Hahn OTOH? Guy is a bum. Get him out of here.

Honestly guys, Rick filled out ALL of the trade paperwork but then his dog ate it. Mama Hahn: "Ricky?! Ricky what are you burning up there?!" Ricky: "Nothin' Ma!" Daddy Hahn: "You listen to your god damn mother! And god damn it Ricky you turn that music down or I'm comin' up there myself!"