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Buehrle with a consistent velocity below 87mph equals MEAT. He's lived on the outside corner this game because Angel hitters have been able to catch up with the numerous BP fastballs.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Apr 29, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) if he had erstad steal while mack. was up, he could had advanced to third with his grounder to first... then scored on konerkos pop up. Except if that scenario would have went down Konerko wouldn't have popped up to RF. He would have grounded out weakly to the sS.

Man, I wish we had an arm like Kelvim Escobar in our rotation.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Apr 29, 2007 -> 12:18 AM) Trading Gonzalez for a player that has proven they can play in the majors would be a good move, in my opinion. Just becuase he's the Sox best prospect doesn't mean he's in the same league as Bailey, Pelfrey, Hughes, Hirsh, etc. There's a reason PHI was willing to trade him for Garcia. If some team likes the numbers he's putting up in that huge park in BHAM, do a deal. He might turn out to be a decent pitcher, but he also might be exposed in park where it's possible to hit HRs. The problem is that the Sox will still need someone to replace Buehrle and possibly Garland next season. But I personally liked the "win this year" philosophy better than counting on prospects. Who exactly would we replace Buehrle or Garland with under your plan if Gonzalez is gone? We're certainly not going to overpay for anyone on the market. This "win now" philosophy needs to go into the trash where it belongs. If it were the way to go, every team would have adopted it. The plan should first and foremost be to develop the system from within. Start with a different draft philosophy. Don't trade anything. You want a good player? You draft and develop one like everyone else. Or trade veteran starting pitchers for the best available packages. Begin placing certain people on notice (as KW has done) and then fire their asses if the results are evident. If the team is poor in certain divisions, either plug from within or overpay on the market. No...more...trades. It's time to start looking at the American League central and realizing things need to shape up quickly. That doesn't mean dealing prospects you think are unworthy for people who may help now. After dealing Chris Young, which about every forecasting model has as a future all-star, it's already evident even one mistake can haunt a team. Let another ballclub make that mistake trading with us; not the other way around.

QUOTE(quickman @ Apr 29, 2007 -> 12:04 AM) really the sox system is weak? everyone on the board says its great. they like him better than the surfer dude You know how I've felt about the system in the past, and even I observe some signs of encouragement in the pitching department. Only way we're combating the future rotation of divisional opponents is either by producing a legion of #2/#3 starters, or hoping an x-factor emerges. Someone acquired via trade or from within the system who comes out of nowhere. Far as Sweeney, if nothing else, his swing is fluid and it will be a welcomed change from previous hitting prospects.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 10:20 PM) Link. Ah, someone beat me to it. Take his word, son.

SOURCE11!!??! Usually someone asks. Just remember everyone, if he's struggling (which I consider inevitable), this is one of our top offensive prospects.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 09:07 PM) I don't think Perez would come here. That would make little sense for him -- come here for a month (or however long) and immediately go back to AAA once Podsednik comes back? If Perez receives enough incentive (ie, money) to return, and understand his stay in AAA could be relatively short, perhaps he would. One of Cintron or Podsednik should be gone by midseason.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 09:05 PM) Milwaukee needs bullpen help, right? Of course, if Jenkins were to be acquired, that would sadly mean the end of the Scott Podsednik era. That's why it'll never happen. We'll just have to put up with Podsednik's light hitting sucktitude for another few months, until he's inevitably released.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) This is what I would do... Once Thome is on the DL, call up Sweeney. I would also maybe send down Anderson and sign someone like Eduardo Perez. I would have Sweeney play LF, Erstad CF, and Dye RF, with Perez and Mack being the main DH's, with Pablo getting some action once in a while. My lineup would look something like this... 1. Erstad, CF 2. Iguchi, 2B 3. Dye, RF (the spot in the lineup Dye has done his best the past 2 years) 4. Konerko, 1B 5. Pierzynski, C 6. Crede, 3B 7. Perez/Mack, DH 8. Uribe, SS 9. Sweeney, LF Now, at least to me, that lineup aint half bad, and would be ideal. I agree with you, here. Except we'll likely see Perez sharing times with Sweeney at DH and Mackowiak/Ozuna splitting time in LF. Guillen won't forsake his veterans for playing time in the outfield.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:49 PM) Looks like Sweeney is probably going to be called up. I'd rather have Fields as he has more power and can DH, but Sweeney is fine. I'd put Sweeney in RF and DH Dye just to everything you can to avoid injury. And it improves the OF defense, too. I don't have anything to substantiate my claims, but do you really believe Guillen would move Dye to DH for more than one game a week? Dye is playing for a contract. Probably his last. I imagine he'll be upset with a move from RF.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) Find a guy who will be a FA after this year or can play in LF. I know some might hate him, but Jacque Jones is someone who could really help this team. f*** Jacque Jones. If we're trading for a Cubs outfielder it better be Matt Murton; someone who actually hits lefthanders. I know the concern with Thome out would be a bat capable of handling righties, but I absolutely HATE the idea of Jones. I'd rather take my chances with Mackowiak.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:34 PM) You'd be doing this team a disservice though to not field a competent DH. With Thome and Pods not coming back until June, you can't let this team fall too far behind. Considering this is likely our last year to compete for the championship for the next few years, you can't sit on your hands and do nothing. Where do we find this competent DH? Is it really worth giving up too much for one when you consider Thome will be here next season? Even one which isn't highly regarded, we're going to pay more then necessary.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:33 PM) Birmingham Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Egbert 6.0 2 0 0 1 6 0 1.45

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:21 PM) You just are afraid we'll trade a pitching prospect. BTW, Thome won't be close to 100 pct until at least the ASB. Heck yes. Even if Thome isn't going to be 100 percent until July, I don't like the idea of making any trades. How do we know if this team would be in contention even if he were healthy? If they're bad, they're bad. It'll be because other players haven't turned themselves around, and/or the pitching collapsed.

Ha, poor guy can barely stay on his feet moving backwards.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) Oh boy, I love this offense. KW has his work cut out for him, as we're going to need an upgrade. I'm still under the belief Williams should avoid any upgrades out of the organization. Don't make any drastic decisions. It's much too early to know anything; including how this time will react if Thome is out for an extended period of time.

Bears on the clock for their 62nd pick.

That's a pure grinder hit. Ball four, just above the dirt, and Erstad slaps it into the outfield.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 07:55 PM) Rally Egbert is so fired. I expect instant results. I have several suggestions. How about: Rally toothbrush or Rally hubcap

Now THAT sounds like a fight. I hope the video finds its way onto YouTube.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 07:38 PM) Look at the up-to-minute batting averages of our lineup: .244/.246/.212/.203/.236/.216/.220/.056/.246 That might be the worst I've ever seen this late in the season. /puke That's one reason you just HAVE to believe they'll turn it around offensively.

88mph straight fastballs usually allow hitters an opportunity to make contact above the strike zone.... Garland needs to me more perfect now, with almost Felix Diaz arsenal, then he has been in the past.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 07:04 PM) People who think we hit too many homers will be pleased, as I'm very confident that Sweeney is getting called up. I'll prepare myself for the inevitable White Sox production from their prospects. Which means a sub .200 average for several months....

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 28, 2007 -> 07:04 PM) BTW, Egbert goes for Birmingham tonight. I'll keep you guys posted. He'll probably implode since I'm following him tonite. He'll probably implode since I'm actually close to feeling confident about our minor league pitching.