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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) with the continuing saga of columbus, i would ask if they would be willing to Ryan Johansen to chi plus a nice pkg of players and the hawks first rounder. Just ask for Saad back lol

Could be a huge day for Tottenham if scores hold. Tottenham up 2-0 on Southhampton MU down 2-0 to Norwich City

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 19, 2015 -> 09:58 AM) Nightingale says Upton. I am sure they have checked in on both. I would prefer Upton, but wouldn't be sad if Cespedes is in the line up. KW went after Upton many moons ago, so I would imagine the White Sox still feel fondly about him. I also think RH and KW pretty much view most players the similarly, so if they wanted him then, Hahn probably would like to have him now. Hahn was trained by KW, you don't work together as long as they have with polar opposite philosophies. There will be differences, but not like it seems many assume. Hahn took his name out of consideration for the St. Louis job when he found out the farm director had the owner's direct ear, and could undermine the GM. That doesn't sound like a guy who would assume the Sox GM job to be a puppet. I think the White Sox preference is Upton. But the contract plays a huge roll. On this FA OF matter, I've agreed with every word you've said. I too would definitely prefer Upton, but wouldn't mind Cespedes. My reason for Upton is because he is 2 years younger, gets on base more than Cespedes, has the same amount of pop (if not more), and Upton can steal some bases. Plus, I think Upton would compliment Frazier & Abreu more than Cespedes would. I'd rather have 2 guys get on base more in Abreu and Upton (350 OBP) than 2 guys in Frazier and Cespedes (low 300 OBP).

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) Love me some cargo but I don't know how we match up. We really don't anymore.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 06:54 PM) "We’ve heard chatter that the Orioles and Rockies have had some talks regarding outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, and Heyman says that Colorado asked for young righty Kevin Gausman in a deal. That was, unsurprisingly, a non-starter for Baltimore. " http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...-plus-mlb-notes Sounds like the FA and trade markets are finally getting some traction. This kind of gives an idea in value of what Colorado is looking for in a return for CarGo. Shoot for the moon Colorado.

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 17m17 minutes ago With OF market frozen and O's talks with Chris Davis at a standstill, BAL has engaged with high-end FA OFers, including Yoenis Cespedes. Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 15m15 minutes ago O's situation with Davis remains the same:$150m offer off the table, but would discuss re-opening--at their price. But don't intend to wait. Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 10m10 minutes ago Some execs predicted in Oct. lots of players would be paid well, but b/c of high volume of FAs, some wouldn't be paid as much as expected.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 02:54 PM) And what exactly is the Cardinals MO? How does Gordon provide a better fit than Upton or Cespedes? Left handed bat. Great outfield defense. Gets on base at a higher clip. Good on the base paths.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 02:44 PM) I think STL ends up signing either Upton or Cespedes. They have the money since they were unable to sign Heyward. Definitely disagree with this. Upton and Cespedes doesn't fit the Cardinals MO at all imo. Their best fit is Alex Gordon, or like Fathom said, a trade for CarGo.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) Ugh I would have loved that deal. Same. He could make 5.8 if he hits all his incentives.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) Let's watch the Dodgers use him somewhere other than 2B. Better the Dodgers try it than us. He is brutal defensively at one of the easiest positions on the field.

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 44s44 seconds ago Source: Athletics in agreement with Henderson Alvarez. @JonHeymanCBS said close. Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 9m9 minutes ago Source: A's deal with Henderson Alvarez should be done soon. Going to be for one year, $4M+, big incentives. @jonheymancbs had them close. Bummer

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) I know someone earlier mentioned the news that Holliday is getting reps at 1B now. To me, that's a great idea for the Cardinals. However, I think that instead of going after Gordon, they'll make a trade for Cargo Very viable option, obviously the Rockies are gonna ask for pitching. Do the Cards have the pitching depth in the minors?

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 11:11 AM) Gut feeling at some point between now and next Thursday, Upton signs with the Sox for five years, with an opt-out after two or three. I agree. But, I think it'll be 7 years with an opt out after 3-4. QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) I think if they could have done this already, they would have. I still think they need to move some money first. Disagree, the OF market is just so slow right now. Literally barely hearing anything on players. They can backload a deal, much like what the Giants did with Samardzija. Side not, Cardinals are working Holliday out at 1B now. I bet they get back in the Gordon sweepstakes.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 12:18 PM) Being creative means with the structure of contracts, not dumping one. Ding. Ding. Ding. Backload the deal.

https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/677899112205959168 Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m5 minutes ago Interesting language in Nate Jones' three-year, $8M deal with the White Sox regarding prospective Tommy John surgery -- a big Lackey clause. Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 4m4 minutes ago If Nate Jones has a second TJ before end of 2018, White Sox get a club option at league minimum in 2019. If not, club options much higher. Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 3m3 minutes ago If Jones needs another TJ, White Sox get three options at total of $8.5M. If he doesn't, two club options at $9.8M and mutual option at $6M.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) Is there word of the actual packages? No. The only thing were actually basing all of this off of is Phillips tweet last night about switching area codes and a plane next to it.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) I doubt that the Angels are out. Moreno, their owner, has come out and said they don't want to do anymore long term free agents for now after Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells

Ken Rosenthal just said on MLBN that an O's beat writer said that the O's aren't spending 100 million+ on a player other than Chris Davis. So now, that is the Angels, Giants, Cardinals, and O's now out on the big OFs. That leaves the Sox, Nationals, Tigers, and Royals that have reported interest in the big 3 OFs.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 08:45 AM) Alexei was wearing a Sox jersey at his Cuba trip. Just sayin..... Serious question about that, do you think he had to get permission by the team to where the Sox jersey in Cuba? I understand why he would, but he is a free agent. It's really not important, but interesting to think about.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) For me, just a few things I'd like them to do, and then I'd feel like they're in the right place. In terms of at least semi-realistic scenarios... --Sign one of Upton, Cespedes or Gordon, in that order of preference --Trade Avisail for prospects - I do think he could get you one good one at this point. I think he's a lost project, but other teams may try to wring something from him. --Re-sign Alexei for 1/7 (I think he takes it, maybe needs an option) That should put the 2016 payroll in the $130-135M range, which I think they are willing to do. Lineup, roster: Eaton 8 Carbera 7 Abreu 3 Frazier 5 New OF 9* (lineup spot and OF slot could vary based on which one) Lawrie 4 LaRoche 0 Ramirez 6 Navarro/Avila 2 Bench: Sanchez, Saladino, Shuck, Navarro/Avila Rotation: Sale, Rodon, Quintana, Danks, EJ/Turner/? Pen (no order): Robertson, Jones, Duke, Petricka, Putnam, Kahnle, Jennings/Phillips Eh? I think I would keep Avi and platoon him at DH and get a start every now and then in place of Melky. Also, would rather keep Saladino starting given his glove his really good and the infield is light years better offensively now. So there is no pressure on him. The 7 million on Alexei I think could be used on another bench piece or a starting pitcher. Overall, good and realistic plan.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 05:20 PM) Bob Nightengale on MLBN just said Sox are perfect landing spot for Justin Upton. Just spent a couple minutes talking about it. This, combined with Bucket's new info. I really hope we can sign Upton soon.

Kyle Murray, QB Texas A&M, is quitting football, transferring to a JuCo, and will play baseball, looking to get drafted next year. I believe he is a MI

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) Expect an outfielder. Bucket has spoken

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) Yeah, it is crazy. Sonny Gray is about the closest comp value wise to Sale. He may be more valuable. Ask yourself, would you be happy with that return for Sale? Hell no! This doesn't even get you remotely close to acquiring Sonny Gray. you're right

Crazy thought here: Sign OF Yoenis Cespedes 5 years/110 million Trade SP Erik Johnson, SS Tim Anderson, SP Spencer Adams and OF Adam Engel to the A's for SP Sonny Gray CF Adam Eaton LF Melky Cabrera 1B Jose Abreu 3B Todd Frazier RF Yoenis Cespedes DH Adam LaRoche 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro SS Tyler Saladino SP Chris Sale SP Sonny Gray SP Jose Quintana SP Carlos Rodon SP John Danks Have 3 picks in top 50 in the next draft.