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Wins always matter at least to the fan base. Unfortunately the same can't be said of ownership based on their actions for a very long time and with the lockout/labor impasse coming JR isn't going to allow Getz to do anything drastic to improve the teams chances to be respectable. Maybe in 2028 when Ishbia I think takes over. And by the way they actually won 93 games in 2021 so that at least was an exciting year.

He'll only be here as long as JR is in control.

Even if the Cubs don't win the division they'd have to have a complete collapse to not make the playoffs as a wild card.

He can't be any worse than JR interfering in areas he has no expertise in.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6523710/2025/07/30/mlb-salary-cap-curt-flood-legacy-rob-manfred/?campaign=14409989&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=602876

I'm not being flippant or sarcastic here when I say all the Sox franchise needs is Ishbia to take over and literally fire all the incompetence and rot on the baseball side of the operations...from the front office, to scouts, to talent evaluators to the medical, training and conditioning staffs. Then he needs to pay whatever it takes to bring in replacements from successful, winning organizations like the Dodgers, Braves, Brewers, Phillies, Yankees et al. Then stay the hell out of the way and let good people do what they were hired to do. Ishbia just needs to sign the checks, stay in the owners box and stay the hell out of the way (unlike JR who thinks he knows everything there is to know about things from "recommending" who the Sox should draft to having final approval on major trades/signings.)

I agree but I'm not expecting much out of him maybe a #5 guy at best.

Because of the opportunity and because of the $$$$$

Before that stretch he was basically unhittable.

Agreed. The vast majority of baseball's problems over the decades have been caused by incompetent owners who blame everything but their stupidity for their club issues.

Yes, from 2019 until the Sox named him manager.

Because despite having a rabid fan base and usually drawing very well, ownership has been cutting payroll and refuses to go after quality free agents. My broadcast partner is from the St. Louis area and he's furious at Cardinal ownership/management.

Pirates weren't the only team doing that, Jeffrey Loria did the same thing with the Expos and then the Marlins. Owners want the players to solve their problems as Donald Fehr said back in the 94-95 time period.

And we know what the chances of that happening are don't we? 😆

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45842533/sources-phillies-bryce-harper-tells-mlb-boss-get-clubhouse

"Get the f--- out of our clubhouse" Harper told Manfred if he Manfred wanted to talk about the potential implementation of a salary cap, sources told ESPN on Monday." Anyone who doesn't think this is going to come to a head quickly next year needs to confront reality. The MLBPA will NEVER accept a salary cap and if the owners want to go down that road yet again they are delusional.

Yes he did. He started wearing his batting helmet in the field and one time with his spikes wrote "boo" in the dirt around first base. And you are also correct about the assumptions from his family.

From Paul Sullivan's Sunday column: Worst programming decision: How does CHSN virtually ignore Allen’s induction into the Hall of Fame? They had all year to put together a short documentary on the man who helped save the franchise from moving in 1972. It would’ve been great viewing before or after Sunday’s game. Someone dropped the ball.

From Paul Sullivan's column Sunday night: Worst baserunning. Lenyn Sosa, take a bow. Sosa was thrown out at third Sunday after Cubs second baseman Nico Hoerner baited him by letting an infield fly rule popup drop. Instead of staying put, Sosa gets nailed at third, squelching a potential rally. “Not a real good baserunning play by Sosa,” CHSN’s Steve Stone says in obvious disgust. “A little bit of a mental error there where he didn’t see the call being made,” Venable said, adding “we have to look ourselves in the mirror and figure out a better way to coach that.” Sosa might also need to look in a mirror.

Good question. Fundamentals are an unknown word around the franchise.

According to Dr. Fletcher from the Chicago Baseball Museum (Chili Dog M.V.P. book) these are the people connected to the White Sox who were there today, not counting former players enshrined in the Hall: Bruce Tanner, former Sox pitcher and son of Chuck Tanner, former Sox owner John Allyn's grandson Bryan, Nancy Faust and former Sox pitcher Tom Bradley. No one from the current Sox organization. I don't know if Goose Gossage was there or not.

This video has both inside the park home runs and the famous Chili Dog home run:

Much like Venable’s predecessor, Pedro Grifol, was brought in as part of an effort to clean up fundamental mistakes, part of Venable’s role in the Sox’ latest rebuild is to lead a staff capable of minimizing days like Sunday. “Those are things that we’re always working on. We’re always trying to figure out how to coach those things better,” Venable said. “The infield-fly rule, that’s something that we’ve been proactive about and talking about, and we still didn’t get it right. “We have to look ourselves in the mirror and figure out a better way to coach that. Certainly, we’re going to readjust, and as we continue to make mistakes, it’s on us to figure out how to get it right.” https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/07/27/white-sox-cubs-crosstown-series-rebuild-andrew-benintendi-lenyn-sosa-colson-montgomery-will-venable-errors

July 31, 1972 – It was another baseball rarity. Dick Allen’s magical season continued with two inside the park home runs in a single game. That tied the Major League record. It happened in Minnesota at old Metropolitan Stadium as the Sox beat Bert Blyleven 8-1. Bobby Darwin was the Twins center fielder who misplayed both of Allen’s drives. He slipped on the first one which saw the ball bounce completely over his head in right center, then on the second one he mistimed his dive in left center and the ball got by him and rolled all the way to the wall. Allen was credited with five RBI’s on the day. It started a stretch that saw the Sox win 14 of the next 17 games.

Watched the tape of the ceremony this afternoon and while I'm very, very happy Dick finally got his due as Dr. Fletcher, myself and others worked very hard to see it happen I was disappointed the White Sox were basically ignored in it. It was Philly, Philly, Philly even though he won the MVP award with the Sox and helped save the franchise. Mike Schmidt talked about Dick in the feature but no White Sox teammate was interviewed and guys like Jim Kaat were actually there. I also didn't see any Sox fans decked out in any gear in the audience when they were showing wide shots. Maybe they were there and I just didn't see them. Anyway I hope Dick somehow, someway knows he finally made it.