Lip Man 1

This was a difficult read because of the lack of spacing but most of your points are valid but keep in mind Mayor Harold Washington said the ONLY way he and his members of the stadium authority would allow money to go to the White Sox were if the stadium was built opposite of where Comiskey Park stood. When Addision voted "no" literally by a single vote, JR was stuck with his thumb up his rear end. The next owner will deal with the Sox situation but I continue to feel they aren't going anywhere. New ownership won't have poisoned the political and fan base wells and again MLB can get far more money for an expansion team then by moving an existing one.

Actually it makes perfect sense. Ownership doesn't feel with all their national and international revenue streams for MLB which are shared as well as local broadcasting/advertising deals they have made enough profit since the pandemic. So... You as a Sox fan will get nothing and like it. Remember JR's operating philosophy, "fiscal responsibility is more important than winning..."

I can assure you they have, but the problem was and maybe still is, they always found outside things to blame instead of looking in the mirror starting with JR.

Only if he can stay healthy and start hitting the ball in the air more. Someone will take a chance on him I guess but I wouldn't expect much given his track record.

Very possibly true, or both Venable and Getz can be following direct orders from JR as to what they are going to be doing.

I disagree with Sosa, In 1990 he was the only player in baseball to have double figures in the following categories: doubles, triples, home runs, stolen bases and outfield assists. He started 1991 off well as well before he and Walt Hriniak, much like Cory Snyder, simply disagreed on the approach to hitting. He took it personally and fell into a funk. Not saying Hriniak was wrong but maybe if he gave a little bit Sosa would have responded better.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/11/01/white-sox-gm-getz-heads-to-gm-meetings-vowing-no

https://www.mlb.com/news/rhys-hoskins-exercises-2025-option

https://soxmachine.com/2024/10/will-venable-can-only-say-so-much-on-first-day-with-white-sox/

And don't forget even if JR approved spending big money who in their right mind would want to come to this incompetent, dysfunctional and inept organization unless the Sox way overpaid them.

Because the owner hasn't made enough profit to satisfy him so there you go. You'll get nothing and like it.

Braves and Angels make the first move: https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rumors-trades-and-signings?t=trades-and-transactions

https://www.southsidesox.com/2024/10/31/24284704/will-venable-officially-unveiled-as-new-chicago-white-sox-manager-at-brief-crisp-zoom-conference

Can't believe he's even still around. Wow...is decent pitching that scarce??????????

Good riddance.

Positive column: https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/10/30/chicago-white-sox-will-venable-manager/ And hey, the actually got the graphic right this time! 😆

I saw where he was making a million, there was a erroneous report out that he was making four million which absolutely wasn't the case.

General manager Chris Getz said he wanted a manager that would walk in step with him and the White Sox brain trust, including analytics, scouting and development personnel, as they make changes throughout the organization in its latest rebuilding effort. By choosing Will Venable, 42, it indicates the former Cubs coach’s willingness to be on board with an organization that was shredded and humbled for all to see the last two seasons. https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/10/30/rangers-associate-manager-will-venable-is-associate-white-sox-gm-chris-getz-was-looking-for

The payroll is getting cut again because the profit margin simply hasn't been enough for the owner the past few years. It is possible to do the bolded part in a good organization. The White Sox are not a good organization and the owner continues to feel superstars/quality talent isn't worth the money they are getting paid by other clubs. Just this past year he basically called them stupid for doing so. Nothing changes until he is gone.

Especially the owner 😆

That's a good point although history has shown if you are willing to pay the price managers have been "acquired" via trades and $$$ even when under contract to a team.

"What quality, experienced manager would want this job? No one in possession of all his faculties. That’s how you end up with Grifol, and that’s how you end up with Venable. The hiring of La Russa was a warning to qualified managerial candidates: You’re dealing with a strange franchise here." https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/10/30/white-sox-have-a-new-manager-its-about-what-youd-expect-will-venable-jerry-reinsdorf-tony-la-russa My take: Ultimately unless ownerships starts bringing in good players and revamping the minor league system it probably won't matter much...we'll see.

https://www.fansfirstsports.com/sox-populi/white-sox-managerial-search-update-did-chris-getz-his-man-will-venable-texas-rangers/

It would take an awful lot to go right just to sniff the .500 mark in my opinion. Just not realistic with this organization.

Perhaps the White Sox for once should try to "break" the trend. It may lead to getting very valuable talent and lead to on-field advantages.