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10 more losses to guarantee another losing season under Rick Hahn! “Accountability around here is not a problem.”- Kenny Williams 4/25/23

August 13, 1943 - Future Hall of Famer, shortstop Luke Appling collected his 2,000th hit in a game. It came against the Red Sox helping the White Sox to a 3-2 win. The hit drove in a run in the first inning off of Cecil “Tex” Hughson as Wally Moses scored. August 13, 1954 - Sox pitcher Jack Harshman who is tied for the franchise mark for most strikeouts in a game, notched another milestone. On this date against the Tigers, Harshman pitched all 16 innings in the Sox 1-0 win at Comiskey Park. The Sox finally plated a run in the last of the 16th on a triple by “Minnie” Minoso scoring Nellie Fox. Harshman allowed nine hits and faced 57 hitters. Incredibly Detroit’s Al Aber also went the distance in the contest! Billy Pierce also threw 16 innings for the Sox in a game in 1959. The franchise mark is held by Ted Lyons who threw 21 innings in a game in 1929. August 13, 1967- All season long the Sox battled the big boys, the Tigers, Twins and Red Sox in the greatest pennant race in American League history. This game marked the beginning of the end of the dream. The Sox lost a controversial game to the Twins 3-2 when Tommie Agee was called out at third base on a close play in the ninth inning. He doubled to center to lead off the inning and tried to stretch it into a triple. The Sox dropped out of first place for the first time in two months as the Twins swept them three straight games in Minnesota. After the game manager Eddie Stanky kept Vice President Hubert Humphrey waiting outside the locker room with reporters saying, “What do I need Humphrey for? Can he hit?” August 13, 1996 - Sox third baseman Robin Ventura slugged his franchise record ninth grand slam leading the Sox to an 8-4 win over the Yankees. It came in the fifth inning off of David Weathers and erased a 4-1 New York lead. August 13, 2002 - Sox infielder Jose Valentin homered from both sides of the plate in the same game. He did it in Texas off the Rangers Dennys Reyes and Todd Van Poppel. The shot off Reyes was a grand slam. He drove in six runs in the 12-3 win. Those were his only two hits for the night. Valentin first did this trick in 2000 and would do it a third time in 2003!

Grifol like others in the organization should not make any comments ever about player availability. Get the trainer or doctor out there to talk about it. If they aren't doing it then shut up.

The countdown has begun! Only 11 more losses to guarantee the Sox their 8th losing season in the 11 years Rick Hahn has been G.M. The excitement is building to a fever pitch! ? “Accountability around here is not a problem.”- Kenny Williams 4/25/23

Not that it really matters but this is the 15th time the Sox took a lead into the 7th inning or later...and lost the game.

Garfien as pregame and postgame host is around the team all the time he is always referring to conversations he has had with players current and former. I'm guessing there's a lot more he knows that he isn't telling. And this is a big change for him and I welcome it, in my mind he's no longer a house organ.

August 12, 1984 – In his sixth year on the ballot, long time White Sox shortstop Luis Aparicio was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Aparicio was one of the most athletic shortstops to ever play and he brought the lost art of the stolen base back to baseball leading the A.L. in that category nine straight seasons. The former 1956 Rookie of the Year by both the Baseball Writers Association of America and The Sporting News played 10 years with the White Sox. He was runner-up to teammate Nellie Fox in the 1959 M.V.P. voting, won seven Gold Gloves while playing for the White Sox and represented the White Sox in six All-Star Games. August 12, 1986 - Future Hall of Famer Steve Carlton, picked up on waivers by the Sox, made his American League debut. “Lefty” only went three innings giving up six runs in a 7-3 loss to the Tigers in Detroit. In 10 games, Carlton would rebound and have four wins, a 3.69 ERA and 40 strikeouts in 63 innings before being released at season’s end. August 12, 1990 - The Sox set what was believed to be the longest wait in baseball history before calling a game because of rain. The Sox were slated to play the Rangers at Comiskey Park in an afternoon contest starting at 1PM Central time. Persistent rains caused a delay before the first pitch was even thrown. The Sox asked Texas if they would fly back to Chicago on an off day to make the game up if they called it and the Rangers said no. So the Sox waited until the evening before ‘officially’ calling the game. The wait lasted seven hours and 23 minutes!!! As it turned out the Sox had to play the makeup game in Arlington as part of a double header the following week. August 12, 2007 - Sox closer Bobby Jenks tied the Major League record at the time, when he retired his 41st consecutive hitter in a game against the Mariners. Jenks’ streak started back on June 17 at Cleveland. The record was originally set by the Giants Jim Barr in the early 1970’s. That record was later broken in 2009 by the Sox Mark Buehrle who retired 45 consecutive batters. August 12, 2017 - When Sox first baseman Jose Abreu went deep with one out in the fourth inning against the Royals, he became the first player in team history with four consecutive seasons of at least 20 home runs to start his career. Jermaine Dye and Jose Valentin opened the White Sox portion of their careers with five consecutive seasons of at least 20 homers, and Jim Thome, Paul Konerko and Carlos Quentin started their White Sox careers with four consecutive seasons of at least 20 homers. Abreu homered again in the sixth; marking his ninth career multi-homer game, both came off of Ian Kennedy. He also became the first Sox player with 25 home runs in four straight seasons starting a career. August 12, 2020 – For the fifth time in franchise history the White Sox led off a game with back-to-back home runs. It was shortstop Tim Anderson and outfielder Eloy Jimenez who turned the trick in Detroit staking the Sox to a 2-0 lead over Matthew Boyd and the Tigers. The Sox would go on to win the game 7-5. August 12, 2021 – It was a remarkable night in a remarkable location. It was the first “Field of Dreams” game played at the location of the movie of the same name in Dyersville, Iowa. The White Sox hosted the Yankees with both teams wearing throwback uniforms. An eight thousand seat stadium was built next to the field where the movie was shot and the game was nationally televised by Fox Sports. Some of the original cast members, including baseball fan Kevin Costner, came out to take in the celebration. The classic baseball movie was released in 1989. Jose Abreu hit the first ever home run for a big-league game in the state of Iowa when he connected in the first inning. The Sox would win 9-8 after blowing a three run ninth inning lead on Tim Anderson’s walk-off two run home run that set off fireworks in center field to recreate Comiskey Park.

From J.J. Lally, Sox Midwest area scout to James Fegan of the Sun-Times: “It’s difficult for us to sign the Aaron Judges on the open market. It’s more advantageous to try to develop them.”

‘‘The ball is in their court. I have put it in their ears that I’d like to stay. I think I have unfinished business here.’’ ‘‘We had some butting of heads that no one was willing to back down. No one was willing to concede. No one was willing to do that. That there really causes a rift." https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/8/11/23829318/like-white-sox-closer-liam-hendriks-endures-season-to-forget

Hard to think that considering the off field noise, missing the 2020 season when he opted out (COVID), TJ surgery and knee surgery. Guy can't stay healthy, really has never pitched a full season in the majors and right now I'd say is probably better suited for a 7th/8th inning guy.

Just got done watching it. He and McGuffy think that the last two months will tell the Sox brass who really wants to play, who wants to step up and start doing things the right way. Both said there are still issues with some guys in the clubhouse specifically named (again) Moncada and Grandal. Garfein said the only way the Sox get rid of Moncada is if they eat a lot of his salary which totals 29 million. McGuffy immediately pointed out that's the combined deals for Keuchel and Garcia. That if the Sox really want to they can DFA him and be rid of him. They have gotten rid of guys before. Regarding Hahn, McGuffy thinks the only way he is gone is if he resigns he won't get fired (same as Kenny) Feels this failure he really worn on him. Again stated that Hahn was not allowed to do the rebuild the way he wanted to and that if he does comes back he somehow needs to get guarantees that he'll be allowed to do it his way without interference. Regarding the Salvy Perez rumors Garfein said if the Royals would eat a lot of his deal and the Sox could get him for 10 million a year to do it, but not if the Sox have to pay 20 million in 24 and 22 million in 25. He's now in his 30's. But would be a respected clubhouse voice and is a catcher. Garfein said the deal was close at the deadline but the teams couldn't agree with the minor league players going back to K.C. Garfein said he's seen and been told that last year and this year in the draft if the Sox were deciding on guys who were pretty equal in talent and grit, they chose the guy with grit, who'll give effort for a full 162 games.

Not that it really matters but it does show how incompetent this team is with fundamentals. They are now 4-9 in extra inning games. Ghost runner starts at second and they simply...can't...score...him. Hope they lose all three this weekend, screw over the Cubs at least.

Thanks for ruining my night!

Interesting scenario this weekend for Sox fans. If the Sox beat the Brewers that could help the Cubs. Since the Sox aren't going anywhere, for me, let them lose at least two, then turn around and beat the Cubs at least one.

personally I'd rather they be producing documentaries on the championships they won in this "window of contention" myself.

August 11, 1912 - The Sox purchased the contract of future Hall of Famer, catcher, Ray “Cracker” Schalk from Milwaukee. He’d wind up leading the league in games caught in a season seven times. August 11, 1941 - In the first game of a double header at Comiskey Park between the Browns and Sox a fight broke out. It happened in the seventh inning when pitcher Elden Auker hit the Sox Joe Kuhel in the shoulder with a pitch. As Kuhel was going to first base he said something and Auker charged him. Kuhel hit him in the face with a punch and blows were exchanged before Sox coach George “Mule” Haas and pitcher Ed Smith pulled Auker away. Browns utility infielder Alan Strange left the bench to join the fight. Kuhel then challenged Auker to meet him under the stands to continue the fight. Umpire John Quinn then ordered Auker taken into police protective custody to avoid any more incidents. Kuhel, Auker and Strange were ejected. In the ensuing melee Sox manager Jimmy Dykes jumped on the back of the St. Louis mascot and drove him to the ground. The teams split the twin bill, the Sox winning the first one 14-9, losing the second game 10-3. August 11, 1964 - The Sox finally won a game against the Yankees 6-4, having lost 10 straight to them that season. Then they made it a double header sweep winning 8-2. Why was winning a game so important? Simple… the Sox won 98 games this season and finished one game behind New York! Making things tougher for Sox fans was that the team closed out the season winning nine straight, unfortunately the Yankees reeled off a streak that saw them win 15 of their last 19 down the stretch to clinch the pennant. August 11, 1965 - Sox star left hander Juan Pizarro came the closest in his career to a no-hitter. In the second game of a double header at Comiskey Park, Pizarro fired a one-hitter in beating the Senators 7-0. The only hit came in the fifth inning, a single to right, off the bat of future White Sox player Woodie Held. Pizarro also walked two hitters but those were the only baserunners. August 11, 1969 - Promising Sox outfielder Carlos May lost part of his right thumb while serving with the Marine Reserves in California. A number of mortar rounds were fired off on the range but apparently the mortar in May’s unit didn’t. The misfire was never noticed in the confusion. May was ordered to swab the barrel out as everyone thought the shell went off. It didn’t, and he when he pushed a metal rod with a swab at the end into it, the shell made contact with the firing pin and went off. The rod, as it was ejected, took off part of his thumb which was later found by another Major League player Bob Watson. It was too late to surgically reattach it though. Intensive rehabilitation followed and May had to have a special batting glove made to protect his right hand. Even though his season was prematurely ended he was named American League Rookie of the Year by The Sporting News. May would come back and have some very good years especially 1972 when he was named to the All-Star team. August 11, 1972 - It was one of the longest games in Sox history and was the start of a four-game series that may have been the best in the decade. The Sox went to Oakland fighting the Athletics for first place in the division, and the day before, the game was called by curfew with the score tied at three after 17 innings. It was picked up on this day and went another two innings before Joe Rudi ended matters with a two-run home run off Stan Bahnsen, as the A’s won 5-3. Sox slugger Dick Allen walked five times in his eight appearances. In the regularly slated game, Cub castoff Dave Lemonds and Cy Acosta outdueled “Catfish” Hunter allowing two hits in a 1-0 win. The Sox and A’s would split the final two games of this series. August 11, 1973 - Sox catcher Brian Downing got his first Major League hit, an inside the park home run off the Tigers Mickey Lolich at Detroit in the fourth inning. The last time Downing played a game against Detroit it was in Chicago, in his Major League debut back on May 31. He had just entered the game when he caught a foul pop up, diving in the process, and tearing up his knee which sidelined him until this game. August 11, 1991- In only his second Major League start, the Sox Wilson Alvarez tossed a no-hitter against the Orioles in Baltimore. Alvarez was handed a big lead early on and made the most of it, shutting down the Birds. Lance “One Dog” Johnson made a diving catch in right center field in the eighth inning, off the bat of Chris Hoiles, to save it as Alvarez had his greatest moment in winning 7-0. August 11, 1994 - The unthinkable finally happened as Major League players struck the rest of the season because of the unwillingness by owners to negotiate fairly on a new contract. (A charge later upheld by Federal court judge and future Supreme Court justice Sonia Sotomayor.) At the time of the strike, the Sox were leading the division, had the second-best record in the A.L. and the fourth best in all of baseball. They were on their way to back-to-back playoff appearances for the first time in franchise history. Many Sox fans blamed owner Jerry Reinsdorf for forcing the strike, being a hard-line owner and sabotaging his own teams’ chance to get to that elusive World Series. Frank Thomas ended the shortened season very close to the Triple Crown, hitting .353 with 38 home runs and 101 RBI’s. He did get his second consecutive M.V.P. award though. August 11, 2011 - Mark Buehrle tied the franchise record when he made his 18th consecutive start, allowing three runs or less. Buehrle tied the record in a 6-3 win at Baltimore. He went eight innings allowing three runs on six hits with six strikeouts. The record was originally set by Frank Smith in 1909.

It came from the owner.

I'd debate your use of the term simmer, it's a lot hotter than that.

I recently completed a chapter on Hawk's tenure for Dr. Fletcher. His next book on the team comes out next year. To answer your question: "Finally in late September, the 26th to be exact, with the Sox 20 games under .500 and twenty-two and a half games out of first place, Harrelson resigned because the backlash from the media was impacting his family in a negative way. In his book he closed his White Sox front office tenure this way, “I believe I did a good job. I made some good trades, getting rid of some dead wood. I will go to my grave with my head held high.” The White Sox ended the 1986 season 72-90 in fifth place in the division, 20 games out of first place. It was a 13-game decrease in the win column from 1985. On May 28, 2004 Melissa Issacson of the Chicago Tribune got a rare interview with Jerry Reinsdorf. One of the questions she asked was about Harrelson’s hiring to run the front office. "Eddie and I would talk to Hawk and (Don) Drysdale at length, and Hawk more so, to identify problems in the organization, we were still neophytes in this business and we were impressed with the way Hawk pointed out our problems. [GM] wasn't something he really wanted to do, but we urged him to help us out. The mistake was that when you go to a doctor who diagnoses open-heart surgery, you don't have him do the surgery because he diagnosed the problem, you get a heart surgeon. Just because Hawk was able to diagnose our problems did not mean he could solve them. It was a terrible position to put him in, and a year later, he said he wanted out."

August 10, 1959 - Sox infielders Nellie Fox and Luis Aparicio appeared together on the cover of Sports Illustrated. The caption read, “Magic Up The Middle, Fox and Aparicio.” August 10, 1990 - The odds had to be a million to one. They were two of the smallest players in Major League baseball yet on this night in the second game of a double header at Comiskey Park, the impossible happened. In the second inning, the Sox Craig Grebeck and Ozzie Guillen hit back-to-back home runs off hard throwing Nolan Ryan. It was part of a four-run inning in a 5-1 win and a sweep of the two games. Making matters even more incredible was that both Grebeck and Guillen pulled their shots. Craig reaching the left field seats and Ozzie right field! August 10, 1993 - With his career fading, the Sox dealt their all-time saves leader, Bobby Thigpen to the Phillies for pitcher Jose DeLeon. Thigpen saved a then Major League record, 57 games in 1990 but was never the same afterwards posting lower and lower save numbers in the years after the mark was set. August 10, 2009 - In an aggressive move the White Sox claimed two-time All-Star Alex Ríos off of waivers from the Blue Jays. Rios was hitting .264 at the time, with 14 home runs, 62 RBIs but was also due $58.6 million through 2015. Rios’ tenure with the White Sox was a mixed bag, playing poorly after being claimed in 2009, and in the ballyhooed 2011 “All-In” season but flashing the talent that got him claimed by G.M. Ken Williams in the first place in 2010 (3.3 WAR) and 2012 (4.8 WAR). Rios was off to a so-so start in 2013 before the White Sox dealt him to Texas for Leury García. The deal off-loaded more than $20 million the White Sox were on the hook for, but overall, doling Rios out $37.2 million to produce 7.0 WAR in his career on the South Side was a significant overpay.

The arrogance and egotism in the front office doesn't allow them to admit failure so they continue to stay the course and fall flat on their faces.

Better yet DFA him ?

COVID had nothing to do with them cancelling last winter, seven months ago.

A.J. on his podcast today brought up the fact that they cancelled it last year without any real reasons.

Have been listening to A.J.'s podcast the past few days. You can tell he's really shocked and pissed off at what is going on. Had both Rosenthal and Rogers on to talk about the situation and how it has turned to chaos.