Jose Abreu

Don't know if this was posted here, but Heyman said on the radio yesterday that the Cardinals and Rockies were the other teams who were talking Abreu with us

Not a surprise. Avi has always been a very hard worker with lots of hustle, but he'll never be able to surpass the bond that Abreu has made with Sox fans on and off the field

Haven't we used xenophobia enough by now?

QUOTE (Tony @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 12:59 PM) Seems like the Sox will be holding open tryouts for 1B/DH in Spring Training..... I don't know where you get that. I feel like Abreu and Delmonico are set to have those roles, maybe with Davidson (if he isn't traded) and Cordell DHing every now and then. I think they're just stockpiling on AA/AAA 1B since Delmonico, Gillaspie, etc. will be lost to the MLB team.

My apologies

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 12:20 PM) Would JBJ qualify as a young player on their major league roster? The way I read it, I thought he meant "young" player as in somebody who was recently in the minor leagues. JBJ is entering his age 28 and 6th Major League season so I'd consider him as more of an "in his prime" player than a young player. This is also coupled with Cafardo having removed the White Sox from his list of teams interested in Bradley.

So it sounds like we asked for Devers or Benintendi and the talks are off for the time being. Heyman

Jon Morosi‏Verified account @jonmorosi Giancarlo Stanton trade development: Source says #Marlins likely would accept offer of Panik, Beede and Shaw for Stanton alone -- if #SFGiants committed to paying at least $250 million of the $295 million left on Stanton’s contract. @MLB @MLBNetwork

Jeez

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 09:48 PM) No. When Dick Allen heard Hahn speak and Hahn wasn't enthused about Avi or Abreu, I knew both would be gone this winter. It will happen. Dick was there. He heard it. I was at one of those things too and Hahn delivered the same answer basically. It's not that he wasn't "enthused" about either of them, it's just that he's not going to necessarily hold onto them if an overwhelming offer is presented.

What does Alec Hansen's 2018 look like? Meaning where does he start the year, ideally where does he end it? Is it basically a copy of Kopech's 2017?

Yeah right.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 07:06 PM) .871 with poor defense at 1st base. Good, but not great. Let's take a look at his 1st half stats from the two previous years. 2015: .296/.343/.492/.835 2016: .272/.326/.430/.756 Not too bad in 2015. But still, from a 1B with poor defense, not too impressive. Look at 2016. BAD. The dude stunk up the 1st half of the season. He is a notoriously slow starter. I think waiting until midseason has the potential to tank his value. You never know if father time catches up to him soon. Maximize his value and trade him THIS offseason. I'll be sad to see him go, but the sox have a chance to cash in on a slugger who may or may not be part of our contending teams. Remember, the sox can always resign him if he is still effective two years from now. Hell, he will probably get offered a job by the sox when he retires. In 2017, among qualified first basemen, Abreu ranked 10th in UZR/150 and 4th in RZR. Wouldn't call that defense "poor". I'd say, over his entire career, it's slightly below average at worst. Source

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QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) Quite strange Cafardo changed article to remove WSox as being interested Good catch.

Watertight truth.

QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Fangraphs warns Sawks to not trade JBJ for Abreu. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dont-trade-...for-jose-abreu/ Over the last three years, Bradley and Abreu have produced roughly equivalent WAR totals despite Bradley getting 600 fewer plate appearances. Abreu’s clearly a better hitter, but there’s a huge gap in baserunning value, so the offensive difference has only been about worth 10 runs per 600 PAs, and Bradley’s outstanding defense in center field is clearly worth more than Abreu’s mediocre defense at first base. Bradley’s WAR isn’t inflated by some huge UZR numbers either; in fact, the public perception is that Bradley is more valuable defensively than our fielding numbers suggest. Wow, I really disagree with the weighting of those statistics. Sure, Bradley is the superior baserunner, but I don't think it's so extreme to the point where Abreu is only barely the more valuable hitter.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) Can't argue with what Hahn is doing here. Jose has value right now. Jose is historically a slow starter. You don't wait until the deadline when his value is low due to the predictable crap ass start to the season. Jose's value is higher now than it will ever be again IMO. Ship him out of here and see what type of return you can get. At the 2017 trade deadline, Abreu was hitting .295/.351/.521/.871 with 19 home runs. But go on, keep embarrassing yourself.

Ka-blam!

Moncada's post translates to something like: Happy to play alongside Abreu again, he has always been an example for me and I am very thankful for all he has done for me

Forever shall this thread live on

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcFvctjFwC3/?taken-by=ymoncada19 Moncada making his opinion pretty clear.

Can everyone just simmer down

Any idea who the "others" could be from Heyman's tweet?

IMO we could just be helping them posture in the Stanton talks.