Jose Abreu

By the way it's at 2.17 now

2.12... there goes any chance at the Cy

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 07:39 PM) Punto Rayburn Aoki f***'em all Don't forget Jason Kubel and Kurt Suzuki

Looks like another one of those 95-97 kind of days for Sale. I prefer him as more of a 92-94 guy, especially with the recent increase in Tommy John surgeries, but I feel like I'm the only one with that opinion.

Way to not show the PK ceremony right behind you guys during the beginning of the broadcast, WCIU

Contrary to many reports, RV says he still hasn't made a decision on whether or not Sale will get an extra start during the last weekend of the season.

Can someone please summarize his MLBN appearance?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 10:36 PM) But then once I told you that baserunning was factored in, you said this.... I'm just saying they are weighted based on people much smarter than you or I using crazy amounts of data and equations. While defensive WAR is a flukey system, according to the people who calculate it, they are pretty damn confident in their offensive WAR calculations Yeah, I'm not a big Sabermetrics guy, so referring to the first part of your post, I didn't know that baserunning and hitting were combined for offensive WAR. As for the second part, I understand, and I know that McCutchen is obviously a much better baserunner than Abreu, but I just don't get how baserunning is so important when it comes to the stat as opposed to hitting, that's all.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 10:25 PM) Ok, but these are scientifically calculated based on which are more indicative of a good hitter. My original post was referring to baserunning being weighted in the offensive WAR stat, not the AVG/HR/RBI/OBP stats individually.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 09:49 PM) That would be a s***ty trade. Just sign one. I wouldn't mind signing one, but if we were to sign Tomas like I suggested, we probably wouldn't have money for one.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 09:48 PM) Why? Because I feel like those stats, especially AVG, are more indicative of how good of a hitter is. OBP as well.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) Okay, but you are also ignoring the face that Cutch strikes outs less, and walks a lot more. His OBP is .399. Oh yeah, and he has 17 SB too. Baserunning is a factor in Offensive WAR as well. My mistake, I thought that baserunning, hitting, and defense were all separate categories. Either way, I still think that the massive HR/RBI/AVG difference should be more heavily weighted, although I do agree that McCutchen has the advantage when it comes to OBP.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 09:38 PM) I like the idea, but I doubt you could get someone like Latos for that package Maybe not quite as good as Latos. I'm saying in-between a Gavin Floyd and Latos.

Tomas will be in the $100M range. Now, I know that this could take away from our budget, but I don't think that we can waste prime years of Sale and Abreu. I think we should go all in this offseason, sign Tomas, and make a trade involving Avisail Garcia and Carlos Sanchez for a proven #2/3 RHSP.

I think that if Felix drops his ERA below 2.20 and Sale stays under 2.00, we have a pretty legitimate chance. I think ERA is one of the main stats that the voters look at, as even the ESPN guys are drifting away from W/L. Sale leads in FIP, too, so that helps. Looking back, it's just a shame that missing a month likely cost him the Cy Young because Robin decided to leave him out there for 127 pitches.

And while we're on the WAR topic, is Alex Gordon really that good? I mean, for someone hitting .270 with 19/67, he better be one of the best defensive players of all time to have a WAR that good.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) According to offensive WAR, he's just a SMIDGE below McCutchen for 2nd best hitter in baseball this year. That's a joke. A .324 BA with 35/102 defeats .310 BA with 23/75 any day.

That was so unexpected. Terrific game. Cutler, Marshall, Conte, Fuller, Allen, Young, etc.

Belisario strikes again. I forgot about him, but hey, only a couple more weeks and he's gone!

Here's another chance for Viciedo to be a hero

This has been a great inning: -Eaton singles -Ramirez doubles -Abreu singles, scoring Eaton -Gillaspie singles, scoring Ramirez

Well there's #101 for Abreu

Nice easy inning for Noesi