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QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:30 AM) Just to put a smile on everyone's face, I present this: http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/03/16/should...eff-samardzija/ I was watching that game yesterday and started coughing up homeruns. Looked like his stuff was rolling up to the plate

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) This is about the team meeting they had: Christopher Crawford ‏@CVCrawfordBP 59m59 minutes ago San Diego, CA Karl Ravech was just on television saying the White Sox were willing to boycott their ST game over this Laroche situation. That's..something http://www.businessinsider.com/white-sox-p...-laroche-2016-3 "This is a team that was not going to go out and practice," Ravech said. "And furthermore, this was a team that ultimately said to the manager 'we're not going to go out and play in that game at 1:00.' You had a team that was willing to stand by the player and not participate in practice, and moreso, not participate in an exhibition game." The only thing that kept the players from boycotting was manager Robin Ventura who told that he needed them to play for him, that it was his job and it was their job. At that point, the players relented. Yes again the kid being there or not shouldn't deter Laroche or the players from playing. They are paid a crap load of money to play baseball. Most Americans leave their kids to go to work. How is LaRoche the exception to the rule.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) I would bet there is a guy Drake LaRoche's age or younger around the Sox clubhouse 162 games this season even if LaRoche sticks with retiring. If it was so burdensome, why was this addressed in March of 2016, 13 months after this has been going on? Still arguing I see

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) No I don't. If he is a distraction why would it be OK if he still is a distraction only less of the time? It makes no sense. Honestly some thing had to be brought this spring that caused it to be a distraction. We don't know what it is and may never know. Only get certain information handed out.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) Again, I would be fine then if KW just banned kids period. But he didn't. If they are a distraction, this is a half assed effort on his and the team's part. All he did was asking him to dial it back. Didn't say he couldn’t bring him in. What so hard to understand. I really think you like to argue for the sake of arguing.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 08:22 AM) So the press was at the team meeting taking photos? You're better than that. If there are photos, that isn't a true team meeting, something bat boys wouldn't have access. Why do you keep arguing this. There is no need of any players kid to be around the team all the time. Plan and simple.

Bottom line Laroche wasn't told he couldn't have his kid in the clubhouse. People are acting like thats what happened but it didnt. He is there payed to play baseball. His kid being there or not shouldn't justify him to being able to play. If he can't handle stepping onto the field to preform with his son not in the dugout or in the clubhouse then there is a issue. It's not like he's going to another country to play baseball and won't see his kid in months. Might not be a good comparison but we have men and women who serve their country and have families that they leave all the time. They know they have to go and do their job. LaRoche is playing a sport but can't do it with out his kid so he quits. What is wrong with this picture. question raised is why is it a problem now. Something had to have changed since he signed and was allowed to have the kid this whole time with him before. Especially in the last week place since it was reported that Kenny had to talk to him twice about it. If this was an issue last year then why didnt the Sox say something before. Maybe they did but it was never reported. Something has to give.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 11:24 PM) Yes, but it's not unlike the Rockies trading CarGo after telling Parra he would be around this season...or the Marlins throwing a fire sale after the Buehrle's committed to being there in Miami for 4 seasons. They're not breaking an actual contract, but it's not the best way to go about conducting business if you become known for going back on your promises. Obviously, the counterargument is that the reputation of the White Sox is still good enough to attract the likes of Rollins, Latos, Austin Jackson, etc. What would be really interesting is to see how many other members of the team are in the Eaton/LaRoche/Kaplan camp...if it's at least 1/3rd of the team, not a good thing. The thing us we don't know if there was an agreement about his kid allowed to always be there. We know it wasn't in his contract. The only person saying it's was verbal is Kaplan who seems to be in Laroche's corner. I would find it pretty hard to imagine that any team would say it's OK for players to have their kids around all the time which includes travel with the team.

I wonder which meat of LaRoche is in Kaplans mouth

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:51 PM) Someone pro-LaRoche is clearly leaking stuff. His meat company is giving these tweets a thumbs up as well Yes I know so we should be taking anything he says with a grain of salt.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:46 PM) Better win this year or there's no doubt in my mind he requests a trade https://mobile.twitter.com/thekapman/status...310390891065344 Kaplan comes how many hours after this broke and is throwing his 2 cents in.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 10:28 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/thekapman/status...306078743855104 Whats even worse with Kaplan taking Laroche side is that Laroches meat company is like egging Kaplan on.

Adam LaRoche - I am all about family too...as a former GM...my 5 boys were allowed to partake in spring... https://t.co/485QNm4Rty https://twitter.com/JimBowden_ESPN/status/710306693758910464

No judgment, but were I LaRoche and choosing between $13M job or keeping my children with me constantly, well, you can always get more kids. https://twitter.com/RattoCSN/status/710223959111782400

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb-news/46986..._medium=twitter Funny

Some should change the title of thread to LaRoche retiring over Drake gate lol

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:20 PM) The other thing is, you say something like KW says, and how is LaRoche ever going to be comfortable ever bringing his kid in the clubhouse, whether it's once a week or once a month? You know KW is taking attendance. What is the cutoff between fine and too much? LaRoche walked away from a lot of money in a rather short period of time. Obviously having his son there meant a lot to him. As I said, I have no problem with the White Sox having a policy you can't bring your kid in every day, but they should have had it in place a while ago. If the White Sox could have signed Alex Gordon but Alex wanted his kid in the clubhouse every day during spring training, I really doubt KW would have said that would be a deal breaker. And if he did and that news came out, everyone would rightfully be blasting KW. All it takes is one person to take advantage of something and it can ruin it for everyone else. They have an open policy saying it's OK to bring your kid in. They probably never said before how much a player can bring their kids in because they never had one that brought their kids in everyday. But it's like taking advantage of something and taking to an extreme when they say is ok to bring your kid in then you bring them everyday. Would be like going to Sam's club to try a free sample of pizza but then sitting there and eating an entire pizza in samples. Just because there isn't limit doesn't mean it's right to take advantage of it.

Mlb network might be cutting out the Sox game. Looks like they are going to the mariners and giants game

Things Adam LaRoche isn’t big on 1. School 2. $13 million 3. Shaving 4. Letting deer live 5. Making contact https://twitter.com/WriteSox/status/710192654605283328

Ken Williams said he has Jerry Reinsdorf's backing on his stance on LaRoche & son. https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/710193676094279680 The #WhiteSox will continue to permit children in the clubhouse, but just not every single day, Sox VP Ken Williams says. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/710193706230550528

To me I have no problem with the Sox asking him to dial it back. Its a business not a day care. Seems the Sox did everything they could and making it comfortable for Drake to be there. But Laroche is payed to play and produce but he didn't last year. If he was embarrassed of the way he played last year you would think he would be more embarrassed that his kid has to watch him play like crap. I'm sure things might not go well in the club house at times but having the kid sit there all time and possibly see that stuff isn't very good either.

Sources: LaRoche chose to retire after #WhiteSox prez Ken Williams told him that he no longer could bring 14-year-old son into clubhouse. LaRoche’s son, Drake, 14, has traveled with him for several years. Adam, in a Chicago Tribune story last year, called him team’s “26th man.” https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/710181386380947456 LaRoche’s friend, #Brewers pitcher Blaine Boyer: “He’s an unbelievable father, an unbelievable husband, a friend you can only dream of.” https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/710181602412769280 Boyer added: “I honestly think this is between good and evil. I know which side Adam lives on. I’m thankful to see the way he’s acting… https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/710181745233006592 “…it’s an unbelievable test of who he is, the husband he is, the father he is.” https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/710181821770702848 Source: LaRoche told #WhiteSox yesterday he would take a “couple of days” before making final decision on retirement. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/710182825836711936

Paul Konerko a visitor in #whitesox clubhouse. https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/710140479661219841

#WhiteSox for 3/16: Eaton DH, Jackson 8, Shuck 7, Garcia 9, Ishikawa 3, Davidson 5, Navarro 2, Sanchez 4, Anderson 6. Rodon 1. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/710127027701944320

http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/whats-...oche-retirement Talks about some possible replacement ideas