Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 06:24 PM) ^^^ Indeed. Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming ..... Would be best case scenario.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) Then this "genius" move of getting rid of LaRoche to save the 13 million was for nothing. It's only a good move if they use the savings to upgrade the club. Just because they don't add someone right away doesn't mean they can't use the $13 million later. I hope they take on Ethier's full salary for 2016 and get Dodgers to pay most next year.

QUOTE (heirdog @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) Borrowing from Occam's Razor where the simplest explanation is likely the most plausible, here is what probably happened: Rick Hahn, the smartest man in the room, decided he would kill 2 birds with one stone. He set up Kenny to fall on the sword by playing on his emotions about players thinking he is weak. He also wanted LaRoche out of here and knew the only thing to send him packing would be the son angle. So Rick decided to go to Kenny and float "no player will say it but they don't like having Drake around" and "they wish you, Kenny, would step in but he don't think you have the guts to". Knowing Kenny would create a maelstrom and personalize the issue to himself...which now he can't revert back from, Rick will soon have full GM power and $13 million to spend on a championship roster. You've won the internet.

QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) Well if this is like the past, every player that crosses Kenny was traded or shown the door.. Is this Sale's fate?? If we aren't contenders mid-season? Maybe.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) no s***. What a bunch of coddled babies we have on this team. Sale and Eaton are showing their true colors. I'm starting to put a lot more credence in those D-Backs rumors about Eaton. He's a guy that's all happy go lucky when things are going his way but mopes and complains at the first sign of adversity. Agree. And if we suck over the next year and a half to 2 years and they look to possible rebuilding, Eaton is first one gone.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) It's like going to the dentist. It hurts now, but in a week or so, the Sox will be fine and will theoretically have $13 million to play with. That's what I'm thinking happens. This sucks so bad right now but when this (hopefully) eventually blows over, all will be fine.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 11:07 AM) Which creates even more issues in the clubhouse. Agree 1000%. If you have an issue with someone in the work place, you don't go directly to said person.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 10:34 AM) So is he retiring or not? The ultimate slap in the face would be to have him come back and stink up the joint again. Seriously. It'd be terrible if he came back at this point.

I definitely loved this story a whole lot more when we didn't know anything and assumed he was retiring because he knew he couldn't contribute because of his back.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) That's on Adam himself, not Sox management. They just told him to dial it back. He's the one that decided to quit instead. Agree 100%. Dude didn't have to retire. That's on him. It is kind of amazing that the players are rallying with him after he quit on them.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) Your guess would be wrong. I said who it was yesterday. It's in the thread. Definitely don't have time to go back through hundreds of posts to find it. Who was it and do you have a credible source or at least any reason for knowing?

If I had to guess which player spoke to KW about him being there, it's Latos. Just my guess.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:36 PM) That's exactly what he's saying. False. As the title of the thread says, he created it. Nothing about them actually talking about a trade. Speculation on his part: 1) Hanley should be a DH. 2) White Sox DH spot opens up, along with $13 mill. 3) it has been suggested earlier in the off season Red Sox could potentially eat some money in a deal. Boom. There's the writer's connection. Also, no one else has said anything about it so it has no legs.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) I agree, that is why all this bad parent crap is crap. From all accounts, this is a pretty good kid he is raising. In one of the articles it says he plays on 2 teams and would love to be a ballplayer some day. Maybe now that his dad is retired, he goes to regular school. I would have done it differently than him if I were in the same shoes. But for me to say he is wrong would be wrong. I don't understand the part about him playing on 2 teams. If he's on 2 teams, how can he possibly be around 100% of the time? As someone growing up playing on one summer league team, I feel like it's impossible ha

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) People ask what has changed since last year, and a logical answer is that some of the new players on the roster came into Spring Training and were shocked at how often he was around. The newcomers on this roster are much more vocal than a majority of the roster was last year. If even one player felt uncomfortable about it, then KW had every right to ask LaRoche to dial it back. Perfect and agreed. And if they want to focus on being a better team and they feel some of that focus is going towards his son's presence, they have every right to let him know he needs to dial it back a bit.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Is this Kenney guy well regarded as far as baseball rumors go? Who cares? He's not saying they are talking about a deal. He's just listing us as a possibility since our DH just retired.

QUOTE (fathom @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 04:53 PM) I'm sure Latos will get blamed 2016 Chicago White Sox: Civil War.

QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) I'll always side with Rosenthal over The Score, but again, just using simple logic, there is no way Williams did this on his own, just because he felt like it. Drake wouldn't have had his own locker stall in the clubhouse last season if that was the case. Williams is taking the brunt of this as he should. But you know the players spoke up. Who says either the Score or Ken Rosenthal are wrong? It's completely possible players complained about him being there constantly while other teammates defended LaRoche.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) You're joking. The organization looks great and has a reputation for pleasing its players. Chill. This is even what they said on the Score. Reputation of pleasing players.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 02:17 PM) Disagree. MLB clubhouse is no place for a kid. He's not saying otherwise...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) Off of the top of my head, I think Ishikawa and Sands are the happiest guys in White Sox camp right now. Probably.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) OF: Eaton, Jackson, Garcia, Cabrera, Shuck IF: Frazier, Saladino, Rollins, Lawrie, Abreu C: Navarro, Avila Playing for the last spot: C Sanchez, L Garcia, Sands, Ishikawa, Lombardozzi, Parrino. Lombardozzi is intriguing. Switch hitter, plays all over, and would know his place on the team. Lombardozzi is definitely intriguing. Would definitely prefer him over Leury Garcia.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) OF: Eaton, Jackson, Garcia, Cabrera, Shuck IF: Frazier, Saladino, Rollins, Lawrie, Abreu C: Navarro, Avila Playing for the last spot: C Sanchez, L Garcia, Sands, Ishikawa, Lombardozzi, Parrino. Lombardozzi is intriguing. Switch hitter, plays all over, and would know his place on the team. I was thinking too about Hector Sanchez making it and Navarro seeing a good chunk of time as the DH. Likely won't happen but an idea.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:36 PM) Mad respect to LaRoche for walking away from $13 million. Hope he and his family are in an OK place. I think this helps JB Shuck out a lot. http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2016/03/a...-leave-the-sox/ I thought he was going to make the team regardless.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) "Like with Cuddyer’s retirement, it almost certainly comes with a buyout, so he’s actually not walking away from that much money. In other words, LaRoche probably chose something like $5-10 million to be home with his kids over $12 million to sit on the bench." From the comments section on a Fangraphs article, so the Sox may not be getting back as much money as expected from this decision. It's better than if they just released or kept him and had him on the dl on and off all year being unproductive when in lineup.