Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) Is the Avi "showcase" done for good, then? Also, what is the over/under on a first inning bunt? lol. I read the box score this morning in the paper and was mad they bunted in that situation. Hate bunting there with a guy on second with blazing speed and can score from second on a single. Maybe Eaton smacks a single, maybe he hits one down the line and is then on base for Abreu's double.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 05:25 PM) Rodon & Anderson. With Carlos you've got 5 more years of control and 6 for Tim. Yeah Rodon could potentially develop into an ace that you could have for the first couple years after a rebuild (or deal when he won't sign a friendly extension).

Yeah he just goes off the 40. That's all him being waived is. Boston is better off holding onto him and seeing if he can turn it around off of the 40 man roster.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Is robin gone yet? No even though Rabbit seemed very sure of it.

I just want this f***ing guy to be a solid #5 from here on out. Maybe we can hope for an offseason of adjustments for next year to be better. Give us close to 200 innings around 4.5 era ball and we'll take it out of the 5 spot. Edit: or hope he is absolutely miserable here enough to the point where he opts out haha (I've noticed the dude hasn't looked interested at all pitching here. At least to me it seems).

QUOTE (Coach @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 06:01 AM) My son and I are going to the Sox game this Saturday. There is no way I am paying $40.00 per ticket. I can go on stubhub and get $7.00 and move to where we want. That's how bad the Sox are. No one comes. Why should they? You can get $7 ticket at the ticket office.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) Renteria taking over does nothing for me. Yeah because the players will still be the same.

Didn't Rabbit tweet he'd be gone by tomorrow? He seemed pretty confident.

If it wasn't for a Matt Albers double and a s***ty Tigers bullpen, we would have what, 13 series losses in a row?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 01:42 PM) Sox sign 1B K.J. Woods. Former Marlins prospect. (4th round, 2013) Just looked at his stats. Only 20 and popped 18 homers last year.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) Sounds like he will be released on monday, so Boston has to pay the rest of his salary. Don't know why my phone keeps putting a C in Shuck 1. Yeah I would take a shot on him. 2. It's ok my phone does sometimes. 3. Who's the girl in your avatar? Lol

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 11:42 AM) Any chance the sox take a chance on this guy. He has to be better than Schuck and Coats. The Sox need to do something soon, could this work for the Sox? If he gets released and Boston is on the hook for all the salary, sure.

Jerry is old. He should be saying f*** it and spending a ton in free agency. Should have signed Cespedes (my choice of the 3) to a similar deal Mets signed him to. Current dream is Reddick gets traded to another team and we sign him without a QO attached to him in the off season.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) For the last week Avila has been hitting better. What you should be saying "ugh" about is Frazier and Lawrie both hitting .181 for the last 30 games. Avi has a 9 game hitting streak and a .357 average for the last week and .278 for the last 15 games, yet he's hitting 8th. Yeah both those guys are killing us lately.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 10:18 AM) https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/744548197457104896 So the offense does better at night?

Alex Avila hitting 6th today...ugh

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) Eventually they will snap out of it, it may be too late at that point, but it will happen. Like James Shields, no team is 10-25 bad. Let's hope.

Gotten to the point where it seems like anything they do won't matter or save us this season.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 08:57 AM) I agree, but I base that more on his choice than no one else willing to give him a chance. I lean towards no one else willing to give him a chance but we shall see after this season.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) They had it sufficiently blown up 3 years ago, then Hahn doubled the core from 2 to 4; but with a core of 4, Hahn starting trading for rents and other veterans that had reached their peak, as the Sox are want to do. Rebuilding is an art, and Hahn doesn't have it. I'd like to see the scouting reports that excused-away a)Frazier's dismal 2nd half last year and b)Shields' last few starts before acquiring him. And the Sox field staff has little interest or patience for development. Cooper only wants "his guys". Ventura won't platoon, he won't move players around. What needs to be blown up is the management. I'm ok getting rid of all the coaches including Cooper (except Herm Schneider. Seems to be the only one doing his job really well). Literally every team turns around a dud's career every now and then and the durability of Sale and Quintana could be because of Herm Schneider as well.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) I wouldn't be shocked if he receives an offer from a team. But I would be more surprised if he doesn't just retire as a footnote in Sox managerial history. I doubt he ever manages in the MLB again.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 08:11 AM) 2012 was a surprise. They were not good in 2011 and brought back almost the same team minus Buehrle,I believe they set a record for rookie pitchers used, and faded down the stretch as guys like Sale ran out of gas, Pulie injuring his wrist,and Youkilis being banged up, 2013 thyey had hoped to build on it but it went south quickly. The Tyler Fowers era wasn't going as well as some predicted. They did exactly what you want them to do know, and blew it up. They goy Avi, who people were just as excited about then, as they are pissed off Trayce Thompson isn't here now. 2014 rebuilding year, didn't stop game threads from thinking they should be 145-17 at worst. The bottom line is whether they say they are trying to win or not, how much does it really matter? Would the team be so much better set for the long haul with Thompson and Semien still aoumd? I don't think so. White Sox fans are the only fans I know who think the team is doing them a favor if they don't try to win. The whole "trying to win" is going smoothly. Although I do think: "wtf might as well go for it" right now. I give trying to compete up through June of next year. At that point, restock the farm and deal anyone who will give you an infusion of young talent. But before that, I want coaching staff and front office gutted.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) The thing is, in 2013 they were actually put together to compete for the division. Don't you remember he amazing Keppinger signing and retaining Peavy? The problem was, they were bad and had a manager in over his head. It wasn't until the trade deadline in 2013 that they sold off assets to bring in a few prospects (Avi and Montas). Yeah they signed Abreu in early 2014 and made trades for Eaton and Davidson but were they truly rebuilding? Looking back on it, it was nothing but a roster shake up for a few younger guys. In 2014, fans did not b**** about losing as we knew the mission was to continue to add younger pieces. The problem was 2015-- instead of staying the course, rebuild the farm and continue to add younger guys-- they decided to go for it! They sacrificed 1st and 2nd round draft picks and we all know how 2015 went-- disaster! So let's look back on everything: 2012- Supposed to compete for the division and do until collapse in September 2013- Supposed to compete for division-- end up being horrible--sell off assets at deadline 2014- A growing year for the new guys- focus on draft 2015- Risk draft picks to sign free agents and go for it prematurely which consequently set the team back and they were a complete disappointment (The Fire Robin chants begin) Decide NOT to trade assets at deadline-- total misjudgment by Hahn/KW 2016- Go for it again-- trade a talented outfielder in Thompson and a few others for Frazier and attempt to catch lightning in a bottle with guys like Rollins and Latos and being in mediocre younger guys like Lawrie and Jackson to put bandaids on a team with numerous holes. It worked in April and some of May, but now it's blowing up in their faces. This team is not good. And now we have even less talent in the farm. Let's not forget all the DFA's and the Shields deal which has been a complete disaster. Looking at the patterns of Hahn and KW, it's pretty disturbing seeing all the sidetracks they go on. To let's go for it, to adding young talent, to trading young talent to go for it again to not doing anything. The lack of a true direction is mind boggling. IMO they all need to go. Robin, Kenny and Hahn. They have failed to let together a team and system that can maintain sustainable success. The statement Hahn mentioned numerous times back in 2013 and '14 when the plan was to restock the team and system with younger talented players. They also didn't have many good pieces to deal unlike now and didn't bring in that much good young talent. When we made the deals in the 2013 season, I don't know if anyone really got excited for what we brought back (other than Avi Garcia). The others kinda felt like depth pieces (Jacobs, Wendelken, couple guys we got for Crain). Edit: besides Adam Eaton

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 19, 2016 -> 02:29 AM) Here's me being stoopid Chris Sale to Washington for Gialato, Turner, and Wilmer Difo Quintana to Boston for Moncada and Beniniti Abreu to Texas for Dillion Tate Melky Cabrea to Seattle for Edwin Diaz Todd Fraizer to the Mets for Dominic Smith and Marcos Molina 2016 and 2017 we tank which results in some more high draft pick years to further ad to the farm. 2019 looks like this: 1SP - Jose Fernandez ( FA ) / Rodon 2SP - Gialato / Rodon 3SP - Tate 4SP - Fulmer 5SP - Adams, Diaz, Burdi, or Molina ( some in pen ) SS - Anderson CF - Beniniti 1B - Moncada RF - Adam Jones ( FA ) DH - Collins 3B - Turner LF - Eaton C - Wilson Ramos ( FA ) 2B - Difo Bullpen: Put one together, f***ers. Yeah would definitely deal Robertson and probably Rodon too if he develops into an ace over that time (Boras client: would want a lot money; sell high).

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) Lincecum's line today: 6 IP, 4 hits, 1 ER, 2 BB's, 2 K's For 1/5th or 1/6th of the price of Shields. Much better for marketing purposes as well. Wanted him when he was out there for nothing but money this season only. Oh well.