Bob Sacamano

They can make a big bat fit. Close to 30 mill of LaRoche and Danks off the books after this season can make it happen.

It's amazing that the chances of maybe getting Upton is realistic now.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) I'm scared of dishing out a 5+ year deal to ANY player. Depends on the dollars and term of course, but Gordon might make the most sense overall on a 4-5 year deal I'd be ok with Cespedes on 4/5 years. He may get more depending on how many and who is involved.

What about Upton at 7 years with an opt out year 4 when he's 32? Can try to get 4 or 5 guaranteed years instead of the 3 left on his deal.

I bet they add Upton or Cespedes now. Ethier not being in the deal makes it better.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) Worth its own thread Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 4s4 seconds ago Source: Dodgers, White Sox nearing a trade. Top pitching prospect Frankie Montas is going to Los Angeles, so it could be pretty big. "Hold onto your butts."

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 4s4 seconds ago Source: Dodgers, White Sox nearing a trade. Top pitching prospect Frankie Montas is going to Los Angeles, so it could be pretty big. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA Some news!

QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) They get a pick when they lose him in 2 years, assuming the CBA does not change much. I think he knows that. I think he's saying it makes no sense to lose a draft pick for a guy here for two years.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) He has already filed one. He doesn't need to wait until next year. Haha I'm not even seeing where he lost 2 years of service time. Edit: unless he's talking about the possibility of Bryant getting called up late in 2014 which would still be inaccurate. They'd have him for remainder of 14 plus 6 years.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Seems like they piggybacked Kaplan Don't see how it's any different than any other site that cites a reference (in this case a tweet). That's all mlbtr is.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) He's getting 78 million for first three years....holy overpay Guess when you have the payroll space that's what happens.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Rosenthal's latest blurb: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/price-h...osenthal-121515 "WHY WHITE SOX MIGHT BALK AT FRAZIER Frazier certainly is a fit at third base and in the middle of the lineup for the White Sox; newly acquired Brett Lawrie could move to second, giving the Sox upgrades at two positions. The problem is, the Reds want significant prospects for two years of Frazier, and the White Sox's system remains relatively thin. Better the team should explore the open market -- if it can find the right solution. A free agent such as second baseman Howie Kendrick would cost the Sox a second-round draft pick; their first-round pick, No. 10 overall, is protected. But Kendrick also has turned down $15.8 million from the Dodgers, and at 32 soon could enter his decline phase. Third baseman David Freese might make more sense -- he probably would be more affordable than Kendrick and the Angels did not make him a qualifying offer, removing the additional cost of a pick." I'm thinking the Freese scenario is most likely. Sign Freese and Cespedes, keep draft picks and prospects.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 05:15 PM) The Braves want to dump Markakis and might send prospects along with to sweeten the pot or subsidize the remaining $31.5 million due over three years... That deal never made sense for them. They should have signed Aoki or anyone else instead.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Looking at the Kimbrel and Miller trades, are they really that insane? This. You have to at least ask.

I'm guessing Gordon and Buehrle to Cards to replace Heyward and Lackey. Maybe a different SP but I think Upton and Cespedes are left for Angels and Sox. Let's not bid against ourselves now.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) Might wanna lower those expectations... I'd expect .220/18/55. Playing only against righties as well.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 05:29 AM) i totally agree, it amazes me on how they keep getting these prospects???? That happens when you develop pitching well. Hitting on the other hand....I'll leave it at that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 3m3 minutes ago Minor-league signings: JP Arencibia to Phillies, Hector Sanchez to White Sox. Nice depth piece. He will likely get some MLB time this season.

If we can get him without giving up Anderson and Fulmer, I'll pick up Frazier from Cincinnati.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 08:14 AM) Cespedes is a lot like Samardzija in that (1) he's going into his age 31 season, (2) he's a 2015 free agent, and (3) his career is made up of a bunch of slightly above-average seasons and one monster year. Cespedes is UNLIKE Samardzija in that the career year came in 2015 instead of 2014. I don't want to pay for that career year. The biggest differences in Cespedes' 2014 and 2015 were a 30-point difference in BABIP and a 9% (!) difference in HR/FB%, both of which are among the least reliable year-to-year metrics for hitters. Walk rates, K-rates, swing rates, and other peripherals were about the same. I think Cespedes is a 3-win corner outfielder who just passed age 30. I don't want to pay him like he's a 6-win outfielder without a draft pick attached. Not to be nitpicky but he's going into his age 30 season (Cespedes).

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:06 AM) I mean.. sure, it would be nice to get some on like Cespedes, but do we wanna backload a contract and pay the guy 30M when he is 36? I don't. Does Garfien have any real info ever or is kind of just a fluff guy? I assume back-loaded after this year. Like they don't pay him a lot this year but then spread the remaining money over years 2-? since this Danks and LaRoche will be gone.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 08:37 PM) Dan Hayes on Twitter tonight saying the Sox could be done adding if trade prices don't go down. Absolutely inexcusable if this is true, but I doubt it is. Hahn can't bash our offense like he did last week (after Lawrie) and turn around and do nothing to help it It would be so underwhelming if they couldn't pull off anymore moves. I'm someone who goes to about 15 games a year (yes even when they've been bad over last 3 years) but it would be hard to justify going to that many this upcoming year, despite tickets being so cheap and easy to get.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) I would disagree. The Sox rarely hold big contract players on short leases. Adam Dunn is a prime example of that. LaRoche will be no different. Look how long it took Robin to bench him last year vs. LHP. Well they were willing to dump him for 8 mill. Maybe about a month or two in when 1/3 of the remaining contract has been paid. And Dunn and LaRoche are not perfect comparisons.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:21 AM) Hmmm, 1 year of LaRoche at 13M or Davis for 7/150M+. I'm glad we have LaRoche because I'm not interested in signing the next Adam Dunn for that amount of years and money. Oh yeah, the 7/150M that the Orioles offered was pulled off the table probably because Boras wants even more. Sorry but Davis is a bad idea. I'll take LaRoche and hope for the best, thank you. Me too. What is the market for Davis? That guy should have taken the 7/150 when, it was on the table.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) Why wait? Put LaRoche on the bench for late inning pinch hitter/defensive sub at first. I think this is what may end up happening. The Sox talked to Eaton about moving him to one of the corners to open up CF for Thompson so it looks as though the Sox plan to use Melky more at DH in '16 anyway, in some capacity. I'm hoping for Eaton LF, Thompson CF and anyone not named Avi in RF. I'm thinking as of now, they'll go with LaRoche to start with but he will be on a short leash. They probably want him and Abreu sharing time at first and DH against righties with Melky DHing, Eaton in left and Trayce in center against lefties. But like I said, if LaRoche isn't performing and Trayce starts off good out of the gate we'd likely see LaRoche shift into a bench role (or even released).