Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Rosenthal's latest blurb: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/price-h...osenthal-121515 "WHY WHITE SOX MIGHT BALK AT FRAZIER Frazier certainly is a fit at third base and in the middle of the lineup for the White Sox; newly acquired Brett Lawrie could move to second, giving the Sox upgrades at two positions. The problem is, the Reds want significant prospects for two years of Frazier, and the White Sox's system remains relatively thin. Better the team should explore the open market -- if it can find the right solution. A free agent such as second baseman Howie Kendrick would cost the Sox a second-round draft pick; their first-round pick, No. 10 overall, is protected. But Kendrick also has turned down $15.8 million from the Dodgers, and at 32 soon could enter his decline phase. Third baseman David Freese might make more sense -- he probably would be more affordable than Kendrick and the Angels did not make him a qualifying offer, removing the additional cost of a pick." I'm thinking the Freese scenario is most likely. Sign Freese and Cespedes, keep draft picks and prospects.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 05:15 PM) The Braves want to dump Markakis and might send prospects along with to sweeten the pot or subsidize the remaining $31.5 million due over three years... That deal never made sense for them. They should have signed Aoki or anyone else instead.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Looking at the Kimbrel and Miller trades, are they really that insane? This. You have to at least ask.

I'm guessing Gordon and Buehrle to Cards to replace Heyward and Lackey. Maybe a different SP but I think Upton and Cespedes are left for Angels and Sox. Let's not bid against ourselves now.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) Might wanna lower those expectations... I'd expect .220/18/55. Playing only against righties as well.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 05:29 AM) i totally agree, it amazes me on how they keep getting these prospects???? That happens when you develop pitching well. Hitting on the other hand....I'll leave it at that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 3m3 minutes ago Minor-league signings: JP Arencibia to Phillies, Hector Sanchez to White Sox. Nice depth piece. He will likely get some MLB time this season.

If we can get him without giving up Anderson and Fulmer, I'll pick up Frazier from Cincinnati.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 08:14 AM) Cespedes is a lot like Samardzija in that (1) he's going into his age 31 season, (2) he's a 2015 free agent, and (3) his career is made up of a bunch of slightly above-average seasons and one monster year. Cespedes is UNLIKE Samardzija in that the career year came in 2015 instead of 2014. I don't want to pay for that career year. The biggest differences in Cespedes' 2014 and 2015 were a 30-point difference in BABIP and a 9% (!) difference in HR/FB%, both of which are among the least reliable year-to-year metrics for hitters. Walk rates, K-rates, swing rates, and other peripherals were about the same. I think Cespedes is a 3-win corner outfielder who just passed age 30. I don't want to pay him like he's a 6-win outfielder without a draft pick attached. Not to be nitpicky but he's going into his age 30 season (Cespedes).

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:06 AM) I mean.. sure, it would be nice to get some on like Cespedes, but do we wanna backload a contract and pay the guy 30M when he is 36? I don't. Does Garfien have any real info ever or is kind of just a fluff guy? I assume back-loaded after this year. Like they don't pay him a lot this year but then spread the remaining money over years 2-? since this Danks and LaRoche will be gone.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 08:37 PM) Dan Hayes on Twitter tonight saying the Sox could be done adding if trade prices don't go down. Absolutely inexcusable if this is true, but I doubt it is. Hahn can't bash our offense like he did last week (after Lawrie) and turn around and do nothing to help it It would be so underwhelming if they couldn't pull off anymore moves. I'm someone who goes to about 15 games a year (yes even when they've been bad over last 3 years) but it would be hard to justify going to that many this upcoming year, despite tickets being so cheap and easy to get.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) I would disagree. The Sox rarely hold big contract players on short leases. Adam Dunn is a prime example of that. LaRoche will be no different. Look how long it took Robin to bench him last year vs. LHP. Well they were willing to dump him for 8 mill. Maybe about a month or two in when 1/3 of the remaining contract has been paid. And Dunn and LaRoche are not perfect comparisons.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:21 AM) Hmmm, 1 year of LaRoche at 13M or Davis for 7/150M+. I'm glad we have LaRoche because I'm not interested in signing the next Adam Dunn for that amount of years and money. Oh yeah, the 7/150M that the Orioles offered was pulled off the table probably because Boras wants even more. Sorry but Davis is a bad idea. I'll take LaRoche and hope for the best, thank you. Me too. What is the market for Davis? That guy should have taken the 7/150 when, it was on the table.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) Why wait? Put LaRoche on the bench for late inning pinch hitter/defensive sub at first. I think this is what may end up happening. The Sox talked to Eaton about moving him to one of the corners to open up CF for Thompson so it looks as though the Sox plan to use Melky more at DH in '16 anyway, in some capacity. I'm hoping for Eaton LF, Thompson CF and anyone not named Avi in RF. I'm thinking as of now, they'll go with LaRoche to start with but he will be on a short leash. They probably want him and Abreu sharing time at first and DH against righties with Melky DHing, Eaton in left and Trayce in center against lefties. But like I said, if LaRoche isn't performing and Trayce starts off good out of the gate we'd likely see LaRoche shift into a bench role (or even released).

Plus signing cheap short term stop gaps is a way to help build for the future. Just like other rebuilding teams in the past, we may have someone producing early on and then trading in June/July.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) Then you have to move Lawrie to 2b where we actually have some depth and turn around and find another 3b or move Lawrie back again in 2017... Not helping much in terms of building towards 2018. I don't think this team is trying to build for 2018. If that were the case, trade everyone now for close to MLB ready prospects.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) Last I read Alvarez was projected 8.1M and Carter at 5.6M. There's really no reason for the Brewers to even be curious about LaRoche. Sox fans just need to accept he will be with the Sox next season. Most likely. Then Melky DH in 2017.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) We still need 3 above average MLB hitters who can field their positions reasonably well. Not impossible, but I'm doubting the FO sees it that way. And we need to do that while losing as few prospects as possible. Sign Upton or Cespedes Sign 1 of Kendrick, Freese, Murphy, Matsuda, Desmond Trade Montas, Engel, and Leyer for Charlie Blackmon Get rid of Laroche and some of his salary somehow Not impossible, just highly unlikely I forgot which analyst was talking about it, but whoever it was mentioned that Matsuda may be open to signing a one year deal to come play over here just to get the experience of living in the US and playing MLB and then figuring out if he wants to stay over here or go back to Japan next offseason. Could be an interesting 1 year option.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 12:30 AM) From a Brewers standpoint and as pointed out in the article, there are quite a few options available and those options are more productive at a cheaper price. How much would Alvarez or Carter command through arbitration? We could offer the same thing we offered the Pirates and they can pay him $5 mil. Although they'd likely prefer to sign Ike Davis, Alvarez, or Carter due to potential trade interest at the trade deadline.

If a team like the Brewers who could maybe use a stop gap, why not? They're not competing.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) I could see Thompson being a right handed equivalent to Kevin Kiermaier if he reaches his full potential. Yeah not amazing with the bat but a great defensive option in center. As of right now though, I think he's the platoon partner with LaRoche (Melky DH'S against lefties, Eaton moves to left, Trayce in center).

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) Chris Sale isn't a bro. Paul Konerko got mad one time too. I guess he's on the same temperament as Carlos Zambrano then? Come on now. With all his personal handshakes for different players in the dugout he kinda looks like a bro...for what it's worth. Granted who cares if a guy is a "bro"? I don't really know why you're obsessing over this for like four days.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 10:20 AM) It was posted in this thread that Mark Buehrle ( who is revered around here) said he had no problem at all with Lawrie . He was probably asked by the Sox front office about Lawrie's character before the Sox pulled the trigger on the trade. It needs to be emphasized and re-emphasized. We've probably all seen or knew athletes who were ultra competitive to the point of being dicks to umps and opposing players but with their own team mates they are the kind of guys you would want in a foxhole with you. Knowing a guy has your back is a good thing, a very good thing. Great post and couldn't agree more.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 08:43 AM) Sure, he'd get more years on the open market, but those teams aren't trading prospects for him. Does it really make sense to give up several good prospects for a guy being paid like an elite OF but only has two years of control with his red flags? Any deal they make where we give up anything significant, the Rockies definitely have to pay about 1/3. I'd rather take it all on and give a little less though and not commit 6-8 years for Cespedes or Upton (though I'd rather have Cespedes. Anyone who signs Upton will regret it in like 2 years. K's too much, average d at best, injury prone. Pass).

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 08:11 AM) I love that the writer calls CarGo at 2/$37M a bargain in this environment. I'm sorry, but I don't consider an AAV of $18.5M a bargain (for a second tier player no less) when one of the best OFs in the game just got a $23M AAV. If the Rockies expect anything of significance in return, they'll need to eat some serious salary. Saying that, I'd much rather have the Sox go after Upton or Cespedes than trade any top prospects for CarGo & salary relief. He probably could do better than 2/37 though. Maybe not his AAV but more guaranteed money over 4-5 years.