Bob Sacamano

If hes offered the most money fo play 3B for a team, he will play 3B. Bet Greg's house on it.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 03:42 PM) This could turn out to be the worse bullpen in the history of the franchise. Trading David Robertson was nuts. Yes, trading a guy signed for one more year, a year your team isn't expected to compete is nuts. Pure insanity.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 03:00 PM) Something else to keep in mind is that our 40 man is currently full, so if it comes down to a NRI and a guy on the 40 and they are about equal, the spot will probably go to the guy already on the 40. Also I could definitely see us going with 13 pitchers for a lot of the year, because it will help protect the young arms as well as showcase more guys who we are open to trading. They could try to sneak guys through waivers when teams are making their cuts at the end of camp. If Rodon ends up missing time, that could be a 60-day dl stint. Same goes for anyone else who gets injured in camp (circles Charlie Tilson's name).

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 02:58 PM) I think with the way the game is going an 8 man bullpen is most likely, especially early in the season when they are still building endurance for the starters. Yeah and they went 3-man bench/8-man bullpen all of last year. It helps when you have the DH spot as a rotating spot (Davidson getting a chunk but can also play 3B and 1B while Sanchez sits or fills in at 2B/SS).

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 02:25 PM) I don't really believe in spring training competition anymore. They start out with a 25-man roster, and if they stay healthy, that's who they go with. Just a guess, if healthy- L- Avilan, Cedeno R- Farquhar, Infante, Minaya, Jones, Soria Gomez or Rondon as the 8th guy. Somebody won't be ready to go on Opening Day though, and they'll end up using around 30 pitchers this season. Also, I don't think Germen got a big league camp invite. ? When the bullpen is this wide open, there is competition.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 02:03 PM) The White Sox have added a lot of interesting Non-Roster Invites and minor league guys to compete for bullpen spots. As of last week, I assumed the bullpen was pretty set with something like this: Jones/Soria/Avilan/Bummer/Infante/Minaya/Farquhar. A lot has changed since then. There are a few minor league signings that could very easily make this team. RHP Nate Jones Joakim Soria Juan Minaya Danny Farquhar Gregory Infante Chris Beck Dylan Covey Connor Walsh Michael Ynoa Thyago Vieira Jose Ruiz Gonzalez German Rob Scahill Jeanmar Gomez Bruce Rondon LHP Luis Avilan Xavier Cedeno Aaron Bummer Jace Fry TJ House Brian Clark I believe that Nate Jones, Joakim Soria and Luis Avilan are all locks for the bullpen. I could see any of Scahill, Rondon, Gomez, and Cedeno displacing someone from above. Vieira and Ruiz will be given a shot as well. If I had to guess, I would think they'll try and send down the "prospect" types and keep as many veteran flip types as possible even though that means creating roster spots. I could see this for Opening Day (Yes it's way too early) RHP Nate Jones RHP Joakim Soria RHP Jeanmar Gomez RHP Bruce Rondon RHP Juan Minaya LHP Luis Avilan LHP Xavier Cedeno. This allows Sox to send Aaron Bummer, Jace Fry, Jose Ruiz and Thyago Vieira to Charlotte for a 1/2 season if necessary. Obviously these veterans could all suck in spring training but I would imagine that we see a couple of them break camp with the major league club. What do you guys think? I could see an 8-man bullpen depending on what the bench looks like so you could even add one more.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 01:36 PM) I'm just trying to use the same standards regarding Avi and Abreu as Hosmer and Manny. For instance except for Hosmer's defense, Abreu looks like the better employee. Avi and Manny are about the same age and one is considered a god and the other a blah. Not a single person on this site would argue Hosmer being better than Abreu so idk where that's coming from.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 12:28 PM) What about Manny Machado's stat line last season makes him worth all the money he's going to get? If he has an off year it should be interesting to see the excuses of fans still wanting to pay him 30 mill a year. Last year .259, 33, 95 RBI. His OBP .310 with 50 walks against 115 strikeouts. Since everybody's talking Avi's BABIP, what does Manny's suggest for this year? Decline? Or he's going to be great? I mean I like Machado's traditional stats OK enough. .259 is blah. But at a similar age, Avi hit .330 with 18 HRs, 80 RBI. 33 walks, 111 Ks. Avi's BA was much higher, Manny's HRs and RBIs greater. Manny had more than 100 more at bats. Hosmer, who is considered a god and about to make 20 mill or more year hit .318, 25 HRS, 94 RBI, 66 BBs, 104 Ks. He's about to enter his age 28 season and wants 8 years. Abreu hit .304 with 33 HR, 102 RBI and .354 OBP with 35 walks, 115 Ks and he's entering age 31 season. Arguably he's better production than Hosmer only 3 years older. You're only looking at one year's worth of data....and even then, his second half was a lot better than his first half, even with a bad September: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...mp;t=b#all_half

QUOTE (Sarava @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 12:22 PM) For starters - it looks to me like he has 2 years left on his deal? So we're conceding that they aren't even trying for a free agent in next year's big free agent class? Also, even if it were off the books, the money is still spent. $40 million is still $40 mil. It's going to eventually come out of something. The Sox don't have an infinite amount of money to spend. Why would this be the case? Payroll would still be low.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 12:05 PM) A guy like Kemp would be off of the books before we would be spending in any real amount again anyway. And the payroll will be low in 2019 (subtract Shields contract) anyway to the point where it shouldn't effect adding someone like Machado if you were willing to pay the price for him.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 10:20 AM) The prospect they get for taking Kemp better be really, really good. It would be $43 million they can't spend on other guys including Manny Machado. Have the Dodgers kick in half his salary for 2019. It's a work around I see where the Dodgers stay under the luxury tax this year to be able to reset their penalties to extend Kershaw and sign Harper if they want and sign Darvish for 2018 and beyond.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 07:43 AM) I’m all for buying prospects. We practically have zero commitments beyond next season. Adding a portion of say Matt Kemp’s salary over the next two years won’t impact our ability to be major players in free agency from a dollars standpoint. The real challenge we face however is that helping out the Dodgers (or Yankees) makes them stronger competitors in next year’s free agent bonanza. Given that adding a Manny Machado type will already be an uphill battle, I think any deal where we take on a bad contract from a big spender will require a premium prospect return. While I think the Dodgers could certainly sign Machado (just need to shuffle guys around, Seager to 2B?), I think they'd be more likely to go after Harper. And yeah, I would rather pay the 2 years of Kemp instead of the 3 years of Ellsbury anyway. Yankees would have to give up something great for us to help them.

If the Dodgers want to get creative to add Darvish and stay under the luxury tax to reset their penalty to spend big next year, couldn't a team take Kemp and pay his full 2018 salary and then have the Dodgers send like $15 mill to help cover his 2019 salary? Or take on a bad contract that is hitting luxury tax insignificant as Kemp? For example: Shields makes $21 mill this year but is annual average salary is what hits, which would be about $18.5 mill (I come out to this number because I am unsure how it is calculated with an option year so I left it off). Edit: I know that's not a great example since they wouldn't save a lot but an idea of what the Dodgers could do with someone else.

QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 06:39 AM) Seems like it was wrote by a dodgers fan. Front? Really? Try again. Also if you aren't getting back someone in the top 50 plus another intriguing prospect outside the top 100 you better be getting back a bunch of intriguing prospects. For example the guy I'd want in their system would be Alvarez. If not Alvarez it would have to be something like Ruiz, Heredia, Brito and Marinan. As someone pointed out, there hasn't really hasn't been too many of these moves where there were big prospects. I think you have to use that Touki Toussaint deal as a guideline. I believe he was trade for only one year of Arroyo and Kemp is making me more annually. So it should definitely be worth more than him unless like you said, we get multiple intriguing guys.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 2, 2018 -> 06:26 AM) That's bold to do both I hope they do.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 04:40 PM) I'm sorry, but if the Sox can help the Dodgers cut payroll and add a solid prospect to our system in the process, I have to do that deal. The Dodgers then have more ability to sign Darvish, leaving only Arrieta on the table. If Kemp only provides veteran leadership as the 25th man off the bench, it seems worth the $ when payroll is so low right now anyway. For that matter, make a trade with the Brewers, to help them free up $ for Arrieta and kick us a prospect as well. What am I missing? Makes the Dodgers better this year and would keep them under the luxury tax this year to reset their penalties to go after Harper next year. Both these things effect the Cubs haha

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 01:49 PM) What about being the Braves. Make the playoffs 15 years in a row and win it all once. That's crazy,especially with what they could put on the mound. Yes I would easily take this. It was so much for fun being a fan in the 2000s when the team was at least competitive. They did win the on championship, but just give me 6 months of good, competitive baseball season.

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:38 PM) Kemp would be a nice pickup at the right price. Yeah for sure. And looking at the free agent tracker, you have Morrison, Melky (teammates seemed to like him), Bautista, Duda, Ethier, and Carlos Gonzalez (rotate between DH and OF) just to name some. I wouldn't mind Davidson getting a chunk of the at bats (he'll still get a decent amount between 3B/1B/DH and based on what other positions a new primary DH can play) but I wouldn't be mad if they signed someone else. Or depending on what else comes over, a deal for Kemp.

QUOTE (Username @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 12:36 PM) White Sox supposedly in the market for a DH, according to Heyman. No names from what I can tell. Probably in the Logan Morrison tier.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 10:37 AM) I know there are a ton of moving parts out there, but I would love to see the Cubs gets screwed by waiting so late into this off season to do something about their starters. They'll definitely add someone. If Arrieta and Darvish go elsewhere, they'll either grab Cobb or Lynn.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 10:22 AM) Who did we give up in that Oakland trade for Swisher? Gio Gonzalez, Fautino de los Santos, and Ryan Sweeney. I think Gio is one of the few guys we have traded prospect-wise in the last like 15 years that has actually gone on to have a good career. Chris Young is a guy who has been around for a while as well and is more of a 4th OF/platoon type.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 1, 2018 -> 09:30 AM) Jeanmar Gomez #AgeGate 2018 lol something a quick Google search can solve.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:18 PM) I would cream my jorts for Beer in the 2nd RD. I personally have Beer pegged for one of those like 4 Royals picks between the first and second round (assuming Hosmer and Mous sign elsewhere).

Does Willy Garcia have options left? I honestly always forget about him and never pencil him into any roster whenever I take the time to think about it. The guy's best chance of making the team are probably injuries. Another option would be for the team to think Cordell and Tilson needing time in the minors since they missed a chunk/all of last season. But even in that scenario where if one of those guys is hurt or in the minors, you probably still have 4 guys ahead of Willy Garcia for a spot (Avi and Leury Garcia, Delmonico, Engel).

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 31, 2018 -> 11:46 PM) How old is he? Baseball Reference (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gomezje01.shtml) has him turning 30 on the 10th of this month. So it's not really possible for him to have been 28 at the end of the 2017 season as suggested on the other page haha