Everything posted by Bob Sacamano
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Rating the Rebuild: Completed Year 1 Edition
QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) I wonder if Rutherford had come over and hit .300 with some power if people wouldn't be so disappointed with the yankee deal. I really like Tito Polo so I don't hate this trade very much.At the time of the trade yanks fans were really upset they gave up Polo so that says a lot to me. And if Rutherford turns it around next year it will be a great trade. I gave the rebuild a 10. Right now we have so much potential that guys a year ago I really liked are after thoughts. There has yet to be a move I hate, and most the moves got more than I thought they would. Plus the signing of Robert... This
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Kevin Maitan and others
MLB needs an international draft. And make it so the kids have to be at least 18.
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Kevin Maitan and others
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 11:54 AM) It becomes really important the distinction of if he is under the international signing rules or a true free agent. If he is under the international rules, we have zero chance. Yeah if that's how the Red Sox signings were handled, I would imagine this is the same.
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2017 Republican Thread
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/...epublicans.html This is f***ing awful. Glad they canned her.
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Kevin Maitan and others
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) So I actually went back and searched the previous case. The Red Sox prospects did count against the international caps when signing with their new teams. I am not sure if playing in the US makes any difference or not as the most important thing is that neither player would have been union represented at the time of their release, so I don't know if Maitan playing in the US will make a difference or not. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/...om-Boston-.html Makes sense if this is the case.
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Kevin Maitan and others
QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 10:05 AM) Guys, Sox can't sign him because of the Robert restrictions. I believe they can't sign anyone for over 300k until 2019, IIRC. There is no way they aren't going to have him subject to International Pool money There is a really good chance that he won't be an amateur foreign signing though so it wouldn't fall into the same category as signing a Robert or a Moncada.
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Kevin Maitan and others
QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 08:15 AM) Let's do a Soler type sign.. 7 years, 30 million.. If he does become a FA How does this work with a 17-year old free agent? It makes sense with draft picks and when international free agents come over as amateurs since the amount of money is just a bonus but I'm not sure how this works here. Say if he signs the same deal Soler signed: does that go in effect right away or when he comes up in 3-4 years?
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Kevin Maitan and others
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 10:04 PM) https://theathletic.com/116743/2017/10/02/r...igning-scandal/ Braves also had a deal with a 14 year old for 2019 class. This is quite the slippery slope if true. The majority of teams have agreements for guys already in 2018, 2019, and 2020. It's the nature of the international market. This could get really interesting. keithlawVerified account @keithlaw Following More Related: There are int'l kids who can't legally sign until July 2nd, 2020, who already have verbal agreements with teams. This is SOP. JJ CooperVerified account @jjcoop36 Following More JJ Cooper Retweeted Ken Rosenthal If coming to agreement with players before they turn 16 becomes something MLB cracks down on, very few teams would avoid getting caught up.JJ Cooper added, Hmmm...is this story the tip of the iceberg?
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Kevin Maitan and others
QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 09:53 PM) Is there anything actually behind signing this guy or is it just baseless wishful thinking? Considering everything just released about the situation earlier today, wishful thinking.
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What do you take from the 2017 season?
QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) How could ANYBODY enjoy one iota of Holland, Pelphrey, Shields, those relievers. Insulting to me as a fan. I listed many positives in my post BTW. That doesn't change the fact it was a horrible, embarassingly bad season, one of the worst I've had as a Sox fan, simply because I couldn't watch so many games cause of the rotten players dotting the roster. I enjoyed this season 100× more than the previous seasons of "going for it" and sucking.
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What do you take from the 2017 season?
QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 02:48 PM) I'm not a "rebuild guy" so I realize my post will be different from most. Please let's not start a big argument in respect for what's really important (the Vegas tragedy). But you asked. ... I thought it was a miserable season. As a fan I was insulted and irritated that we had to trot Pelphrey, Holland and Shields out there as three starting pitchers. They were disgustingly bad and insulted me as a fan. I mean if they were trying to tank, fine, but those guys were embarrassments to the uniform in terms of performance. As far as other negatives ... I feel like we had about 5 bullpen pieces "almost" as bad as the above mentioned starters. Disgusting bullpen. The positives for me are different from some of you. I appreciated some key hits this season from Avi, Davidson and Abreu. I especially enjoyed Avi's season, which was splendid. And I absolutely loved Abreu's season. Also as much as I hated Dunn, I did like Davidson. I felt like he did the uniform proud as a rookie. Some of his blasts were absolute bombs. I also liked watching Moncada and feel like Tim Anderson showed well the last six weeks. I disagree with some of his hitting approach but enjoyed his hitting the last month and a half. Enjoyed some of the performances of our young starters especially Rodon. In short, I loved Abreu, Davidson and Avi. Hated a bunch of things. This season is only "miserable" if you don't actually understand what's going on. So many positives this season. Sucks you can't enjoy it.
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Kevin Maitan and others
Great timing of this...watch out teams interested in Otani.
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Shohei Otani is likely coming to the USA
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 29, 2017 -> 09:16 PM) Not every team was able to bid on Abreu either, some big players ( Dodgers, Yanks, Red Sux) were out, much like Robert. Plus the Sox had a very strong connection with Cuban players. Otani is a very different situation from Abreu. This explanation is inaccurate. Abreu wasn't a restricted amateur signing.
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TILSON IS ALIVE!
QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) Weeks? I am thinking days. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) Weeks? QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) Days? I am thinking hours. LMAO. There was an internal debate on what I should put there.
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TILSON IS ALIVE!
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) Dan HayesVerified account @CSNHayes 2m2 minutes ago Charlie Tilson has been cleared for baseball activities. Headed to instructional league in Az. Over/under how many weeks until he gets hurt again?
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Rodon has minor shoulder surgery
Whatever happened to the eye emojis being used for good news.
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Rodon has minor shoulder surgery
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Sam PanayotovichVerified account @spshoot Expect a White Sox injury announcement within the hour. Pretty important piece of their future. I literally just told someone earlier that it would suck to find out Rodon is going to miss all of next season with some kind of injury.
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Reverse Standings Thread
QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 12:35 PM) Yeah, I don't buy the Collins thing. Maybe they meant #1 given their draft position, but if they had the #1 pick, they wouldn't be picking him. Yeah this is what I'm thinking too.
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Reverse Standings Thread
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 12:25 PM) How good would Houston be with Rodon and Bryant in their fold? MIA Rodon?
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2018 Schedule
QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) completely ridiculous if you ask me. However...how sweet would that be if the Cubs were vying for a playoff spot and the Sox knocked them out of contention. That would be awesome...but could also suck to see them clinch on our field
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The Reinvention of James Shields
QUOTE (Superstar Lamar @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) I hope he gets reinvented into a prospect by next year's trading deadline
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Reverse Standings Thread
QUOTE (Lillian @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 09:18 AM) One way to look at it is that the Draft could be divided into 4 categories: Best H. S. pitcher, best H.S. position player and the same for the Top College prospects. So, even picking 4TH, you have the best of one of those categories, at a minimum. That should console those who are so disappointed that the Sox Draft position is slipping. Moreover, there is no consensus #1, 2 or 3. Hey, those who want Beer may get your wish. He could be a reasonable pick at around $5. I saw a mock draft from August that projected us to pick him at #2. I don't think I ever saw that posted here. I can't see him going top 5 unless he has another monster year. Source: http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft
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New Banner
QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) Anyone that asks for the banner to be changed will be banned! Even if I don't have the power to do that.
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Does Abreu fit into Sox longer term plans?
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 08:59 AM) 100% agree. 4 years/$75M sounds about right to me. 2019 to 2021 should all be competitive years and I think he'll remain an elite bat during that period, even if he ends up at DH ultimately. I don't think there's much of a market for either Garcia or Abreu but I would prefer extending Abreu personally due to the fact he has a longer track record. Garcia, I think they try to deal him this off-season but ultimately hold onto him playing the wait and see game until July when they either decide to trade him or extend him.
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2018 Celebrity Death thread
QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 28, 2017 -> 12:22 AM) One of the rare celebrities I'd give my left nut to have his life. x10000