Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 11:06 PM) Well, Brandon Crawford's botched DP caused them the game. Error on the most routine play earlier did too.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 11:03 PM) Giants bullpen converted 43 saves in 2016. They blew 32 saves. That's unbelievable for a playoff team. Especially considering they had zero wins when losing after 8th inning. Ouch.

If this series goes 5, they have to start Cueto and go Bumgarner out of the pen.

Gift run earlier is huge.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 07:01 PM) Who do you have in mind? He had said in a few posts Jackie Bradley Jr and Eduardo Rodriguez.

Any chance Ramos takes a QO? Teams might be worried about signing him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 04:17 PM) Random brainstorm barely worth noting - if they were to give up Moncada, Frazier would become a reasonable fit for them at 3b, thus moving Sandoval directly to DH most of the time and perhaps alleviating their need to DH hunt in the process. I wonder what other teams could use Frazier? Mets could be a team looking for one if they end up moving Wright to 1B.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) FWIW: Boston/Providence paper and talk media are pretty consistent today. Red Sox priorities in order: 1. DH-Bullpen( esp.lefty) and 3B. Most figure bullpen via trade and DH and 3B in house 2. Alex Speier who is one of their prime reporters said they have 6 starters signed for next year. "This may be an offseason defined more by subtle changes rather than fundamental ones. In the rotation, the team retains control over its six primary starters this year – David Price, Rick Porcello, Eduardo Rodriguez, Drew Pomeranz, Steven Wright, and Clay Buchholz (whose $13.5 million option represents almost a no-brainer given its short term and the righthander’s solid performance down the stretch). Will the Red Sox explore the trade market to see if the White Sox are inclined to deal Chris Sale or Jose Quintana? Certainly, but in a thin market where the prospect cost of starters is likely to be exorbitant, the team may also stay the course. " https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2...fLwI/story.html Man too bad they didn't decide to re-do the Pomeranz deal when they had the chance. Idk if its all certain that Buccholz option gets picked up either.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) Dombrowski and hopefully the Sox. The Sox aren't one player away, so that trade would just shift the hole rather than plugging the multiple holes that a Sale trade should. Betts is an MVP candidate and has years of control left, plus he is a fan favorite, not likely that either side would be too interested in that deal. Agreed. Don't see it either. They'd have to replace his and Ortiz's power.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 01:11 PM) Those are so rare as to be statistically irrelevant. But should still count as balls in play.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) The bolded could and will be said about any player the Sox will potentially acquire. It's going to change at some point. However, given Boston had the best offense in the AL, I'd expect him to dip on his career numbers a bit but it's not as if he's going to lose his ability to walk, power or athletic ability. Even if he performs at the 10th-20th of his projection, he's 15-20 dingers, .230/.310/.400 with great defense in an up the middle position. The italicized isn't a thing. Unless you're a star on a s***ty team you just play within yourself. I am not sure why JBJ would be subjected to some immense amount of pressure on a team where the barriers to be of the best are low and the amount of people watching are of the least. What's not to like? I prefer Benintendi because I think he is a three hitter in CF for six years too but JBJ is a great player. He's essentially a better version of pre-2016 Jason Heyward. More power and no question of whether he can handle CF. Heyward nearly got 200 million on the free market. It should be noted that part of Heyward's contract came from him being so young when he reached FA but still, Heyward is no lock in CF and JBJ has more power. I think it was in part to that. I remember he had problems with Farrell too. The Red Sox obviously weren't going to move Vazquez with his chops behind the dish. Red Sox are just flush with catchers. They had Hanigan and despite him having a horrible year batting, he's awesome defensively and with pitchers. Then they have Vazquez/Swihart. Then they pick up a jouneyman catcher in Leon and he dominates. Swihart was probably just the young guy with most athletic ability and least defensive ability behind the plate. Sox were supposedly very interested in Swihart according to some Boston writer during this year. I heard that radio guy (Lifs***z?) who said the BoSox-Sox were talking Sale last year wasn't full of it. Not saying it was close to a deal, but the Sox gauged Sale's value and the teams talked packages. Could definitely see a deal happening between the two. Especially if the Red Sox decide to go out and replace Ortiz's power with a Cespedes or Desmond signing (I don't see Edwin coming over unless they either A) decide to play Pablo at third or B) just straight release him (don't see this scenario).

I'm definitely a fan of Swihart being in the deal as a last piece and I know people hate how he was moved off catcher, but wasn't it just because Vazquez is better defensively and to fill a need in LF?

Need Nats to win today so Scherzer can go game 1 instead of game 5 of the NLDS if they end up playing the Cubs.

How about Sale to Boston for Benintendi (MLB ready player), Devers (if no Moncada), Groome (their #1 pick, left handed starter), Kopech, and a young MLB ready starter back (Rodriguez or Owens)? Is that far off or somewhat close? If Moncada was in that deal above, likely remove Devers and a pitcher I would think.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 9, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) If that package was available for Sale, the trade would have been made in July. It wouldn't have killed their line up. As much as it makes sense Sale is worth all those pieces, the Sox aren't going to get all those pieces. It is too much for one guy who pitches once every 5 days. To replace that, it would more than offset the deal In which Sale is signed. Technically it couldn't have been due to Groome being ineligible.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 9, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) Got to disagree here. We have no idea what the White Sox asked for, but some rumors suggested they wanted an impact major league talent in return like Betts or JBJ, which could explain why a deal didn't take place. Perhaps they're expectations change headlining into the offseason. We also don't know what the Red Sox were offering at the deadline. A first round loss due to pitching failures could force Dombrowski's hand and result in a better offer. There could also be more teams in the sweepstakes for Sale, also potentially resulting in a better offer from the Red Sox assuming they remain interested. As for the amount of talent, I don't think a Benintendi/Devers led package is all that ridiculous. Look what teams have been paying for top end pitching. A Cole Hamels type package should be the bare minimum in terms of expectations and I think someone will pay that in this market. I'm not sure Jose Abreu's proposed package is really that much crazier than what the Phillies got...I actually think it's a bit light. I think you're underselling Sale's value here. And the Red Sox can plug a hole in left with a Desmond, Reddick, Cespedes signing.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 07:57 AM) Even with Q and Sale 2 guys that if traded are supposed to bring enough talent back to set the White Sox up for years, they finished 14th in MLB in pitching the last 2 seasons. 27th in 2014, and 20th in 2013. Keepimg him is fine, but his Guru status with some is ridiculous. Coop will fix 'em has pretty much gone by the boards. Agreed 100%.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 08:45 PM) Not sure what stats say, but the Giants easily have the worst lineup of the 8 playoff teams Would look a lot better with Span, Nunez, and Panik in. 2 guys sat due to a lefty on the mound (dumb) and one guy is injured. Edit: actually, Tomlinson had a good year in a backup role. Makes sense he'd get in against a lefty. Gillaspie and Hernandez however should be on the bench.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) Lol, Porcello will never make the Red Sox say "nah, don't need Sale" Ever ever ever And I didn't imply that so I don't know why you're responding as such. I just want their starters to get hammered for 4 games. Just tossed his name out because he's likely game 4 starter.

No way Betts is going in a deal.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 08:08 AM) Hopefully Tribe can sweep and Red Sox exit with concerns on their starters. Don't want to see Porcello or Price get a 2nd shot at redemption. Hopefully they get one win but their starter gets hammered. Porcello comes back for game 4 and then also gets hammered again.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 12:20 AM) Why is a Sale trade being discussed in a thread about Cespedes opting out of his current contract? A Sale trade would signal a full rebuild and should logically be followed by trading Q, Frazier, Cabrera, Robertson, Abreu...pretty much everyone for whom a decent return could be had except Eaton, Anderson, and Rodon. Meanwhile, signing Cespedes would be a clear signal that the White Sox intend to compete in 2017. This doesn't make sense. Because I tossed out that I hope the Sox don't sign him and instead, Red Sox do to replace Ortiz power/making Benintendi expendable in a deal.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 05:00 PM) I don't know...despite these struggles, nothing about their current trajectory screams "desperate" to me. Boston has a good young core of position players at the MLB level with other coming up (Benintendi, I know hes already up and Moncada). This is why I think a deal for a controllable starter makes sense from their stand point. And its not like its for some guy. It's Sale.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 04:38 PM) Price with yet another disappointing performance in the post season. Doesn't augur well for Kershaw. For those hoping Dombrowski would come under pressure to make another big move, events are breaking on cue. Somewhere, Rick Hahn is grinning from ear to ear.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) They've played it during every passing period in my school today. It's so annoying. I purposely wore a Sox shirt today to piss people off. When I was in High School, that Go Go Sox song would be on during passing periods when the Sox were in the playoffs in 05 so it's fair. They're both equally terrible songs anyway.