Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 03:54 PM) I'd love to get Chance Sisco on the Sox. QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 01:01 AM) Love that kid as a prospect. I'm right there with you. What do you think the Orioles would want from us for him? I mean within reason since I don't think they can get Quintana with their spects.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) You'll be able to relive all your post surgery John Danks memories with Derek Holland. Just remember to buy tickets early, he is going to get flipped for a future all star or 2 by the trade deadline. I hope so...worst case scenario is he is awful and helps push us towards the #1 pick in the 2018 draft haha

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 04:36 PM) Soo.. is Beer the second coming of Bryce Harper? What's all the hype about? QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 16, 2016 -> 12:28 AM) Nah I wouldn't get too attached to the guy. There is still a year and a half from now until this draft and other players will come along. Plus, as of now, we likely aren't a top 5 draft pick team yet.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 02:56 PM) Frazier, again, not much of a market for 3rd basemen . He needs to hit for higher average and get his OBP higher. He hits way too many pop ups and struck out way too much. If he can adjust to the AL in his 2nd year he'd be more valuable. I think Frazier would make sense for the Mets since you can't count on David Wright anymore/he should be moved to first anyway. But other than them, I have no idea who wants him.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) Sorry if my comment read that way haha. I know we agree I keep reading all this Rockies optimism, and just can't get over the fact that a few moves (Trumbo/Encarnacion + Desmond + Dunn) is not going to take them from 75 to 88+ wins It's all good. They definitely can't count on scoring ten runs every game to win.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) "Needs Work" is putting it lightly. They had a team ERA of 4.91 in 2016...good for #27th in the mlb, and the mlb worst bullpen at 5.13 ERA If they are serious about contending they would have the Sox on the phone and be talking about a Quintana + Robertson deal You keep keep acting like I'm disagreeing with you based on your comments lol I know their pitching needs help as I've mentioned a bunch throughout this thread. Edit: and I bet if they add one more bat, they will be on the phone with them with an offer that will blow us away.

Blackmon CF LeMahieu 2B Arenado 3B Gonzalez RF Encarnacion 1B Desmond LF Story SS catcher That's pretty lethal. That pitching needs work as mentioned.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) Call me crazy, but how does a team with a bottom 5 mlb starting rotation and the worst bullpen in baseball + Mike Dunn make them a contender? Am I the only person not drinking the Rockies cool-aid? That pitching staff won't be able to hang with the Dodgers or Giants to win the division, let alone win a playoff series Yeah idk. They'd definitely have to make a significant add (maybe 2) to each their rotation and bullpen. Hmmm what team is looking to sell just those parts I wonder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/c...ntend/95458154/ Article mentions they are talking to Trumbo and Encarnacion. Posted today.

Every time I see someone has posted in this thread, I hope there is a new tweet or rumor with substance and I die a little every time there isn't.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 12:31 PM) The Cardinals make a lot of sense as the third wheel in a trade. They really need another OF, and Blackmon or Cargo would fit perfectly and they could provide pieces that the Sox would value so the Sox would not need to strip away too many of their own prospects. Something like: Cardinals get: Blackmon Rockies get: Reyes and Quintana Sox get: Rodgers, Hoffman, Tapia, Sosa, Kelly Not anymore. Grichuck, Fowler, Piscotty is what they're going with.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) Where did he say that? I dont see anything about that on his twitter. I saw a facebook post about it a little bit ago but I think it may be a bit old. I think I do remember reading that after they signed Desmond as well.

According to Bob Nightengale, Rockies are in discussions with Encarnacion and Trumbo.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 11:26 AM) Well that would certainly give the Sox a few more toys to play with in a Q to Rockies trade. Dahl or Tapia with Rodgers please

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 11:04 AM) This thread title is so misleading. Every time I see it I think there's an actual substantive report of a deal being done, not just "Sox shopping Robertson." There are probably a half-dozen better ways to title this thread that won't mislead readers. lol it happens to me too.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 11:01 AM) The lesson we have learned from trades is that teams are largely unwilling to part with players that impact their immediate mlb rosters (Bregman, Turner, Swanson, Benintendi, etc.), but are willing to part with prospects that are not mlb ready right now (Moncada, Kopech, Giolito, Lopez, Dunning, Basabe, Diaz). It makes sense because subtracting a bat from the mlb roster creates another hole to fill. Rodgers should very much be on the table in trade talks though I do feel like asking for Rodgers and Dahl plus an additional 2 pieces would kind of be asking for a lot. A deal would probably be more along the lines of Rodgers, Tapia (could plug him into center next season), and then 2-3 additional pieces. I guess it kind of depends on who else they move from the OF and how serious they are about Desmond at 1B or acquiring another.

Man, if we're judging people based on small sample sizes, people are going to hate this team in the middle of a rebuild lol

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) Guys, this is why you have to be careful with sample sizes and stats: - Reed had only 15 ABs all of last year against lefties in the majors. 1-15 is bad, but Alex Bregman started 1-32 OVERALL. - The guy had an 870 OPS against lefties in the minors last year. - He's 23 and sprinted through the minors. Still tons of time to develop. Way way too early to call him a platoon bat. Would love to see him in a Q deal as a buy low. As a final piece, I'd be ok with him.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) I don't think the Rox want to trade Dahl, but they're idiots if they plan to play Desmond at 1B. And in order for him to go to the OF, they need to trade either Dahl, Gonzalez or Blackmon. And they badly need pitching. I can guarantee you Hahn is asking for Dahl. Agreed. They were also rumored to still have interest in Trumbo.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) I've always thought this...how a team stacked full with players with this much value who everyone is willing to mortgage their farm to get (as the Sox have) could be so far away from contending that they would need to wipe everything clean and start over is baffling. Cardinals fan at work asked me the same thing lol "how can one team have so many valuable pieces that almost all teams want and be that bad?" haha

QUOTE (Special K @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) Thanks but still think the headline piece we get back for Q needs to be a top positional player prospect. Not a buy-low guy or an outfielder who could be above-average. No one said that "a buy-low guy or an outfielder who could be above-average" should be the center piece.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:26 AM) That's insane. Why not give that money to Boone Logan who they're familiar with and trust? Sox should seriously just sign Boone Logan and take him off the market for Jennings. Then just trade him in July or next off-season (if he signs a multi-year deal).

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) OK I watch baseball, I promise, I really do and I have never heard of this guy. lol he is a lefty reliever who was with the Marlins.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 10:26 AM) That's insane. Why not give that money to Boone Logan who they're familiar with and trust? Maybe he wants a 4th year? I assume they would talk to him.

Rockies sign Mike Dunn. 3yr/$18m. Go all-in Rockies and deal for Q and Robertson.