Everything posted by Bob Sacamano
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Chris Sale Appreciation Thread
QUOTE (aboz56 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Thanks for the contributions, Chris. You were my seventh favorite White Sox pitcher behind Mark Buehrle, Jon Garland, Jose Contreras, Freddy Garcia, El Duque and Bobby Jenks. Savage.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) Man did that guy on that message board nail the Sale deal or what? LOL just thought about that link that was posted and not too long a deal was struck We all have to follow that thread to see if he posts anything else.
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Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) I am just not a fan of the Rangers system. Gallo yuck. Profar has like 3 years of control and has Boras as his agent. I'd be all for a Mazara package though. Really sucks that the 2 years Profar spent on the DL counted towards his service time. Otherwise he would definitely be interesting.
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Moncada vs Benintendi
QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Voted Benintendi. The cliche here is time will tell. But for now, even Red Sox fans were relieved that they gave up Moncada, not Benintendi. High ceiling but lower floor is Moncada. It probably has more to do with the fact Benintendi came up and hit good and Moncada came up and struggled. Fans tend to overreact to small sample sizes (as seen here a lot yesterday).
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Chris Sale Appreciation Thread
Sale, thanks for being a boss on the mound. It sucks it's come to having to trade you since KW/Hahn/Jerry couldn't put a competent offense/defense on the field behind you.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) That is the way it should work, correct. Does it every time? I think so, yes.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) DD talking about the trade now, only brings up Hahn's name, never mentions Williams. Just a note. Well Hahn is the one that is going to be communicating to DD and other GMs.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) What, too much work for you?? @BNightengale The #WhiteSox getting besieged with calls now for Jose Quintana, but the Sox are expected to step back, catch breath, before dealing him They have to take a break to reload on coffee and food.
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Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go
QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) I am actually on system overload right now with trying to keep up with 10 different threads at one time because every thread has breaking news. Not sure I have ever seen anything quite like this on ST. Me too lol it makes me look busy at work though with all the clicking and typing.
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Cardinals Interested in Adam Eaton
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) I would very much be interested in going after Gomez if I were the White Sox, now that they have moved Sale. Fills a need, doesn't matter if he's terrible, if he gets a 2 year deal then he could be tradeable if he can recover somewhat. I want him as well.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) What, too much work for you?? @BNightengale The #WhiteSox getting besieged with calls now for Jose Quintana, but the Sox are expected to step back, catch breath, before dealing him Everything is going as planned.
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Cardinals Interested in Adam Eaton
Can't see him being dealt until Fowler and maybe Desmond signs. Probably Gomez as well. Just money in those cases (plus 1 draft pick for the first 2).
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Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go
QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) What does this exactly mean? The Sox aren't scared in trading him? Sacred not scared lol Edit: it means no one is untouchable
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) Has it been mentioned anywhere that the Sawks are paying Moncada's entire salary? Thats what Bernstein reported on the radio. Not salary. Signing bonus. He will make league minimum with us and go the regular control route.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) I'm not worrying about pitching at all for the future. It's almost always there for us. Now we could have a rotation of: Rodon Fulmer Kopech Hansen Stephens Plus they will likely take another good pitcher in a first or second round in the next couple of drafts.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) It would be very funny to now go get a 5-7 player package from the Yankees built around Clint Frazier and Gleyber Torres for Q. OR, go chat the Nationals up about that Giolito/Robles package for Q. That would be amazing lol
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Top three prospects in baseball since MLB Pipeline showed up: 2011: Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Matt Moore 2012: Jurickson Profar, Dylan Bundy, Wil Myers 2013: Byron Buxton, Oscar Taveras, Miguel Sano 2014: Byron Buxton, Carlos Correa, Kris Bryant 2015: Byron Buxton, Corey Seager, Lucas Giolito Lot of good names there. Buxton was probably rushed to the bigs honestly.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) He was up for 31 days. That really doesn't effect the White Sox in any meaningful way. They have him for 6 years. If they wait 6 weeks to call him up they will get a 7th. This and I really hope he starts in AAA.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Kinda wish Boston had not blown a year of service time by calling up Moncada in September...but I'm nit picking now They didn't waste a year of service time.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) I thought it was a signing bonus...but I guess it can be paid over 3 years or something. I had assumed the Red Sox were paying this all along. I guess I am happy to see it confirmed. It was a signing bonus but its likely broken up.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) The way I understand it, the Red Sox already paid the tax, the Red Sox are covering his actual salary. His bonus. He should be league minimum and under regular control.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
The Red Sox are only paying him the remainder of his $31 million deal. Anyone know how much that is?
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) Wait, I thought he only got $31.5 million and the other $31.5 million was luxury tax? None of it was luxury tax. It was 100% tax penalty on going over foreign amateur spending.
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) This is from the Red Sox forum: Most feel that they underpaid for this deal (does not happen with normal Red Sox meatheads) They are also skeptical if Moncada will ever figure out how to hit the breaking pitches, strikeout numbers is a concern. Yeah man, I'm pretty nervous about this deal. Nervous, excited, disappointed, sad lol
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Red Sox acquire Chris Sale, White Sox get Moncada+
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:35 PM) He should be kept as part of the rebuild imo. He's cheap and offers some upside. Trade him and bring him back in 2018 when he is a free agent.