Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 12:08 PM) Or Turner could be moved for Sale..... Sounds like they are going to non-tender Espinoza and move Turner back to short.

Anyone think they could possibly try to flip those prospects, along with some of their own, for Sale?

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 10:44 AM) Gallo's value is in the toilet right now, the Rangers should have sold high when they had the chance. Looking at his minor league stats he murdered the ball at low and AA, but once he got to AAA he could not consistently hit at all. His 17 game mlb showing this year ended up with a .040 batting average and completely tanked his value. I don't see Texas having enough to offer in a Sale deal to entice the White Sox. Mazara is a below average defender and graded out a replacement level this season with a 0.4 WAR...not exactly a future star. Odor's below average defense resulted in only a 2.4 WAR season...not earth shattering as well. I see better packages coming from elsewhere I wonder how Odor's arm is. He definitely has enough power for 3B.

Minimum dl days in now 10. I like that one. Makes it easier to put a guy arm soreness on the dl only missing a start really.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 1, 2016 -> 06:40 AM) Dude, you simply need to STFU and leave this board for good. Whether you're a Cubs fan or not, I think everyone here can agree you're condescending as f*** and bring a combative attitude to discussions. You constantly talk down to posters like you are better than them and can never admit when you're wrong (see post above). Do us all a favor and go away. Seconded.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 05:00 PM) Simple economics. Say a person, let's call him "Soxtalk poster Deadpool", spends $250 on something Cubs related (gear, tickets to a game, concessions at the game, a ride down the urinal trough at Wrigley, whatever). Now "Soxtalk poster Deadpool" does not have that $250 anymore, and cannot spend it on White Sox related things. The Cubs existence took the possibility of the White Sox getting "Soxtalk poster Deadpool"'s $250. They may not have gotten it anyway, but now there's a 0% chance instead of a >0% chance. Lmao well there ya go.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Unless there's a lockout or he gets traded, they'll announce something on Friday. Avisail safe under a rebuild mode? I think so.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 07:31 AM) Have you heard what the Astros and Dodgers package of players will be? What about other Sox players? In his original post, he said Bregman and Springer are in play (not together).

Why is this randomly coming up today? Are they about to sign Trumbo or something?/green Lol

QUOTE (Carpe Diem @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 06:53 AM) I get my info from real people. Not internet. I don't/never doubted you. You got anything else for us though from your sources?

Resolution on this by Friday?

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 11:42 PM) I can't believe we are arguing the fandom of a radio personality. Dan Bernstein is a White Sox fan. It's not a debate. Yes he is. He doesn't come off as one though. I think he's just frustrated like most on here though.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 05:48 PM) Bernstein isn't a white sox fan. Never has been and never will be. He is a sarcastic wise guyl though. If I am a GM on any team I do not want to deal with Epstein because he wins every trade and will not give up his best prospects and players. That's fine but I don't want to be on the losing end of a trade with the Cubs. I still don't know how they got Addison Russell and Jake Arrieta. for dregach. Arrieta wasn't anything until he changed his delivery and got away from the Baltimore staff.

Cubs sign Jon Jay. 1 year 8 mill. Not bad.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) Yes sir. I feel like it's a mutually beneficial deal, especially if they resign Walker. Walker accepted the QO unless you mean long-term.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) With their youth, depth, talent, cohesive front office/ownership, the likelihood of that is almost 0. They should at least be competitive and fun to watch from a fans standpoint. We haven't even had that.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:27 PM) The Cubs have no reason to overpay for Chris Sale. The point is moot. I agree. Maybe they would if they hadn't just won the world series.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) Jerry Crasnick‏ @jcrasnick Just heard the #Astros are still a potential option for Edwin Encarnacion. Please sign him. Run out of positions for Gurriel to force him to play third to move Bregman.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Their rotation is getting a bit long in the tooth. Acquiring Chris Sale for mostly prospects improves their chances. If Sale isn't as good as Lackey, the offers people make here make zero sense. BTW the guy doing the MLBTR chat said he would trade Bregman for Sale straight up. He actually said he wouldn't trade him straight up. Edit: wouldn't trade Bregman straight up for Sale, let alone part of a package.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:13 PM) Bernstein just said he'd be stunned if Rick Hahn thinks this way. He doesn't doubt that it came from someone in the organization though. Talk about cutting your GM's nuts off. Yeah I don't think Hahn would be this close-minded. Jerry on the otherhand....

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:10 PM) I agree with the idea of not trading superstars across town (but I limit that to superstars, I would happily offer them Robertson/Jones/prospects), but you can't let anyone outside of your org know that. You can't TELL the Cubs you aren't going to deal with them, because it could and obviously did get out, which hurts their leverage. But internally deciding not to make blockbuster deals with the Cubs makes perfectly good sense. Agreed.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:09 PM) They didn't come out and say it. But it's out there. I doubt any team would be surprised. Probably a good bet the Sox wouldn't trade Sale within the divison either. That said, they woiuld trade him to the Cubs if the offer was ridiculous. Well you know what I meant then.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) It was actually on CSN last night. They actually asked David Haugh about it. He thought it was the right thing to do for the White Sox. His reasoning, if Sale helped the Cubs win, JR would be remembered for handing WS trophy(s) to them. That wouldn't be good. No one here is saying we should trade Sale to the Cubs (other than proposals on what it would take). Just that it is dumb to remove a team from the equation that can actually afford him with their farm.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) If Chris Sale led the Cubs to another title or 2, and the Sox didn't win one any time soon, do you really think Sox fans would be OK with that? They would be ripped in every way imaginable. Columnists who today think it would be dumb for the Sox to not consider trading with the Cubs, would absolutely forget they ever wrote that. Many, many fans would to. Helping the Cubs win doesn't help the White Sox at all. The point is they shouldn't come out and say it even if they intend on never trading him there. Why not use them as leverage? I5 doesn't really have anything to do with what the fans want.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) They have zero chance of passing the cubs, Pirates or Cardinals any time soon and with the cubs success, although they get the 9 sell outs when they play the world series champs this year. Sadly, more than we'll have all season