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Frazier/Rutherford/Andujar/Fowler is a fair package IMO. The Yankees would get to keep Torres too.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 10:03 PM) It is funny that probably the 3 players that were most upset about the LaRoche fiasco are the only ones to get traded. The longer this goes, the funnier the conspiracy gets Since when was Q upset about the LaRoche situation?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 08:24 PM) If they want Meadows they wont get him. Pirates cant trade him. Yeah, they can.

Rum Bunter also says the Pirates are less likely to trade Bell than Meadows. If that's the case, the 3 player package is most likely Glasnow/Newman/Keller which would be disappointing.

Colby Rasmus to the Devil Rays.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) He only pitched 65 innings last year. It's going to take him at least 2 to build up the innings to be a full time starter. That's...disappointing.

Is Kopech really that far away? I was under the assumption that he would be in Chicago some time in 2018.

QUOTE (HeGone7 @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) Your feeling of never having too much pitching isn't invalid...except this time. If you're lucky, these guys pan out. Hard to imagine any are as dominant as Sale, but hopefully they are. Both Sale and Q were top 10 WAR arms, which has been mentioned over and over. WAR isn't the end-all and be-all, but for the sake of discussion that is what you're shooting for. So lets say two of them do. You're in a worse situation than we were the last several years. Because once Abreu/Frazier/etc are gone and Eaton already is - you've replaced it with one guy, Moncada. Now I'm sure you're thinking that this rotation will be deeper but that still doesn't solve the fundamental problem of this organization, which is their inability to develop hitting. You needed hitting prospects. Fine. You maxed out on arms, and that has tremendous potential value, but my god man. You desperately need star-power hitting. And advanced hitting at that. Not projects like Basabe. Sit and point your finger at the lack of success from the guys you mentioned, but it won't mean s*** when we still cannot score runs. Gonzalez pitched well last season. So you had 4 good to great starters last season - with much better hitting than what 2018-2019 projects to be. This is your last big bullet and you need hitting. End of story. If you settle for more arms because its the best value, so be it, but Hahn better know something we don't about out payroll for those years and you better be spending it on offense because you cannot put together a team with 10 starters. Sorry bud - not how baseball works. I don't disagree with what you're saying, but you totally missed my point. I said: "I'm absolutely okay with the Sox acquiring Glasnow/Keller if they get Bell, Newman, Hayes, etc." They absolutely need to get 2 of the 3 hitters I listed and/or Meadows...and if they don't, it's a failure. I don't want a package comprised of pitching only, which is what you seem to think I want. I also think the Sox will be active trying to acquire a hitter in free agency or through a trade in a couple years in the rebuild is going well.

Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely NOT saying the Sox shouldn't trade for more hitting. I definitely hope they get at least one blue chip bat for Quintana. I'm just saying that getting more pitching in trades isn't a bad thing and rebuilding is about collecting the best possible talent regardless of position or need.

I f***ing hate the mindset that trading for too much pitching is a bad thing. Do you guys remember how much trash was in the back end of the rotation during the Sale/Q days? Humber, Paulino, Danks, Latos, Noesi, Shields, just to name a few. That is one of the main reasons why those teams were never any good. The back end of the rotation was a black hole. Having a full 5 man rotation that has talent and potential is the real goal here. I'm absolutely okay with the Sox acquiring Glasnow/Keller if they get Bell, Newman, Hayes, etc.

If the Sox were able to get both Glasnow and Keller, they'd be so stacked with pitching that I'd hope they'd flip a couple to Colorado for Brendan Rodgers.

Schwarber is a pipe dream IMO. He's extremely overrated but Cubs fans would never forgive Theo for trading him.

Let's say the Cubs hypothetically offered Eloy, Happ, Candelario, and a lottery ticket for Q. Would you take it?

I absolutely love this signing. He's young and full of potential.

It's not Wednesday.

Tucker/Martes/Reed/Laureano/Stubbs That is the package I want for Q.

Sean Sears knows no more than any of us. Don't take what he says with any meaning.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) Something to note if they tried for Machado. Moncada could move to CF, while Bregman could go to second. True, but who knows how well Moncada would adjust to a different position. It might be better to keep him in a spot he's comfortable with.

If I felt like the Sox would make a serious run at Machado in a few years, I'd prefer them to get Meadows to lock down CF for the foreseeable future. However, I don't see that as a realistic possibility so I'm hoping they get Bregman and tank hard enough in 2017 to get Seth Beer.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) One good thing about rumors like this is that a lot of the guys start checking on their sources and give updates on what they are hearing once the ball gets rolling like this. Bad thing is that it freaks mike the f*** out. I'm pumped. It's been weeks since any real new rumors came out.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 03:35 PM) Dan Hayes @CSNHayes now Heard one reason #WhiteSox didn't yet add Geovany Soto to 40-man was to leave space for a possible trade. Makes sense w/ Quintana rumor. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm OH. MY. GOD!!!!!!!!!!

Under team control through 2020. No risk at all for the Sox which is nice.

Jose Abreu is a very valuable member to this forum.

I'm surprised Adams made the top 10 over Dunning or Stephens.

Hammel, Ross, De La Rosa. Several different options if the Sox go this route.