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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) You guys just aren't thinking long-term enough, the Shields trade will end up being one of Hahn's best moves. Hahn knew that Shields is set to have the worst season of all-time in 2017, where he'll give up at least 4 runs in every start (with the lone exception of him inexplicably dominating the Cubs again and striking out Bryant 4 times, but thankfully we still lose due to a badly misplayed flyball by Avi) and the Sox will lose every single game he starts. On the back of Shields' historic awfulness, the Sox and Padres will be tied going into the last game of the season. Moncada goes 5-5 and hits for the cycle but Big Game James comes through in the clutch again with a 4 HR performance. Despite being so young, Tatis Jr. has surprisingly tore up the minors and has earned a September call-up. The Padres enter the 9th inning down a run but start a rally with 2 outs. Tatis Jr. becomes a White Sox hero when he knocks in two runs with the game winning single, securing the #1 overall pick for the White Sox. He goes on to become a solid regular but Sox fans quickly forget about him when Seth Beer becomes the first non-Trout AL player to lead the league in WAR in nearly a decade in his rookie year, leading the Sox to the playoffs. This is great.

What. Did. I. Just. Read.

I think trading Jones right now for a haul and hoping DRob rebounds next year is the right thing to do. The Sox might want to give Jones a chance to close to build up his value even more, but his value could take a hit if he struggles in that role.

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) What? AKA having a guy on the team that isn't particularly liked by the opposition.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) No one wants them. They have zero trade value. This simply isn't true.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 3m Rockies are making a big push for Greg Holland, and word is they are getting close to a deal This is great. Washington could be forced to go to Robertson now. and maybe Colorado gets more serious about adding Q.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:50 AM) Does it look like they are trading everyone still? Also it was more like a month ago that I said that. If they do still unload everyone I'll go back to thinking they could have a high 2018 draft pick, but right now this is probably a 75+ win team. So you think they'll only be 3 games worse than last year after getting rid of Sale and Eaton while replacing them with nothing but trash? Lol c'mon man.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Its time to let go of this delusion. Sox will be picking ~10th again. Doubt it, especially if they trade Q. I think 5th-7th is the worst case scenario if Q is traded before the season.

Being a bad teammate is one thing, but being having a "douche" is something that I think every team needs. Kopech sort of fits that mold too.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) This doesn't make sense though and isn't how teams operate. They haven't gotten the offers they wanted. If someone offers them what they want next Wednesday or Thursday or the following week, they'll trade Quintana. It's much more about teams not ponying up than some arbitrary deadline. If they keep him until the deadline it's not because that was the plan. It's because nobody offered enough to pull the trigger. Well you said "They won't be trading him prior to Soxfest or this weekend." What if someone caves and offers them what they want tomorrow? I don't think the events over the weekend would prevent any trade from happening this week, nor is Soxfest any different of an arbitrary deadline than before the end of Spring Training. The bottom line is that these things are fluid and can change at any time. Hahn just has to hold firm in his wants and shouldn't be willing to sacrifice...yet.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) Yep. They won't be trading him prior to Soxfest or this weekend. If someone offers them what they want prior to Spring Training though, I think they'd still move him. Why? If anything I think it's the opposite. They probably want to move him before SoxFest in order to make the big announcement there or they won't move him until the deadline.

Shields will serve his purpose if he's bad enough to allow the Sox to get Beer.

Alec Hansen. I think he was the steal of the draft and has top of the rotation potential. I think this is the year where he takes a big step forward.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 10:18 AM) I really think if it came to it I'd be content telling Pirates they need to go depth if they're not including Meadows or Bell. Something like Glasnow/Newman/Hayes/Diaz with the possibility of Keller would be a phenomenal deal. Which tells me I'm looking at a deal that wouldn't be offered. The Pirates would sure as hell have to include a lot of depth if Meadows/Bell aren't on the table. Otherwise it isn't worth it for the Sox.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) I've heard that a few of mine aren't even in the FutureSox top 45. Here we go: 1. Yoan Moncada 2B 2. Lucas Giolito RHP 3. Michael Kopech RHP 4. Zack Collins C 5. Reynaldo Lopez RHP 6. Alec Hansen RHP 7. Carson Fulmer RHP 8. Luis Alexander Basabe CF 9. Dane Dunning RHP 10. Zack Burdi RHP 11. Spencer Adams RHP 12. Charlie Tilson CF 13. Jordan Stephens RHP 14. Adam Engel OF 15. Jameson Fisher OF 16. Amado Nunez IF 17. Jordan Guerrero LHP 18. Trey Michalczewski 3B 19. Luis Curbelo IF 20. Alex Call OF 21. Micker Adolfo OF 22. Bernardo Flores LHP 23. Brian Clark LHP 24. Jake Peter Utility 25. Matt Davidson 3B 26. Dylan Covey RHP 27. Ian Hamilton RHP 28. Corey Zangari 1B 29. Victor Diaz RHP 30. Blake Hickman RHP I've seen no mention of Willy Garcia anywhere. Kind of surprising. Why is Call so low? He had a nice season last year. I'd rate him higher for sure. Probably in the 10-15 range.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 12:25 PM) Sox were stuck in a tough spot picking #8 in 2015 Every player picked above them I think they would have drafted over Fulmer: 1) Swanson 2) Bregman 3) Rodgers 4) Tate 5) Tucker 6) Jay 7) Benintendi They did what they felt was the best selection at the time was in Fulmer. At 6' 200 lbs he has less than ideal size for a starting pitcher and likely is best suited to a bullpen role, but he should be given the opportunity to start in AAA this season I wouldn't take Tate or Jay over Fulmer even now.

That's right. Law said Sale was a future reliever too. lol.

Law doesn't think favorably of any White Sox prospect.

.372/.456/.698 38 HR's, 97 RBI's, 11 SB's, 12.3 WAR

I'm not sure why the Sox are stuck on Musgrove's inclusion in any Astros deal if the indications are correct. Let Houston keep him and ask for more hitting in exchange.

In 52 games: .243/.298/.401 with 6 HR's, 31 RBI's, 13 SB's, and 1.5 WAR

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 10:35 AM) "Jose Quintana traded for Kyle Tucker and some other prospects" sounds like the worst headline I could ever read. What a laughing Stock Hahn would be to the other GMs. Absolute laughing stock. If the "other prospects" are A.J. Reed, Francis Martes, Derek Fisher, and Ramon Laureano, how does that make Hahn a laughing stock?

We've had the same conversations so many times already that I think we've all become delusional. A trade has to happen soon or I fear for the sanity of this forum.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 05:37 PM) If this team hits all of the projections individually you've listed so far - we're going to win the World Series. I like to be optimistic.

.304/.375/.530 24 HR's, 78 RBI's, 13 SB's, 4.8 WAR