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QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 11:32 AM) Keith Law has him at #17. Top 10 doesn't really seem like a consensus. You know what I mean. I haven't seen any other list/source that had Moncada out of the top 10. 17th is absurd for a prospect of his caliber. Has his stock dropped a bit? Probably. But not that much.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) You should probably read the write-up. He has reasons for it. I don't give a damn what his reasons are. Yoan Moncada is a consensus top 10 prospect at the very worst, even with that short MLB sample size. Period.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) Everyone is going to have their own views and opinions on players. I don't really understand why people get upset about rankings. I'm not upset, but this list lost all of its credibility after he ranked Moncada 17th after a small MLB sample size. Ridiculous.

The only thing I've gotten from this list is that Keith Law has no clue what he's talking about.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 08:05 AM) Saw this on snapchat as well. Both numbers are retired. Years they were drafted in? I would assume so, unless Paulie is willing to un-retire his number. Lol.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 07:56 AM) Usually when its a low number like that, it's probably going to be the number they have. Only time that changes is if there's a vet pickup who likes a particular number and that young player has to change (i.e. Rollins last year) Kopech was wearing #14 and Burdi/Collins were #16, so I don't really think it means anything.

The Sox would be taking a risk by putting all their eggs in Conforto's basket if they traded a legit asset like Jones for him straight up, but I personally really like Conforto and think he has All Star level potential.

Jones for Conforto actually wouldn't be too far off. I've proposed that deal before and gotten mixed reactions. It's risky for both sides but I'd probably do it.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:27 PM) An OF prospect who is 18 and a guy we can already plug in at catcher (or leave in the minors for however long it takes to gain an extra year of control)? I can dig it. OMG you liked one of my ideas. I'm flattered. ❤️

Robertson and $10 million for Pedro Severino and Juan Soto.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) There are definitely a few names that could be of interest in the Sox eyes. For example for a super cheap price, I wouldn't mind a guy like Jake Peavy around to show some of the kids how to compete with intensity. Others of note, Matt Harrison, CJ Wilson, Doug Fister, Henderson Alvarez, Jered Weaver Somebody to suck up some innings and be a warm body. Alvarez would be great. He still has upside.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) In a rebuild it is all about maximizing your assets. Dumping everyone on their low points is a waste of potential assets. That's exactly what I said. Let Robertson rebuild his value so he can be maximized at the deadline. Jones' value certainly isn't low right now and I worry that ineffectiveness/injury next season could hurt his market. I'd trade him now if at all possible, though the deadline seems more realistic.

I agree with raBBit. I'd much rather trade Jones for a haul now and let Robertson rebuild his value than the other way around.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) He is convinced he is a reliever. So thus, no top 100. He was also convinced Sale was a reliever.

I think Detroit could get something nice back if they were willing to eat money.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) You guys just aren't thinking long-term enough, the Shields trade will end up being one of Hahn's best moves. Hahn knew that Shields is set to have the worst season of all-time in 2017, where he'll give up at least 4 runs in every start (with the lone exception of him inexplicably dominating the Cubs again and striking out Bryant 4 times, but thankfully we still lose due to a badly misplayed flyball by Avi) and the Sox will lose every single game he starts. On the back of Shields' historic awfulness, the Sox and Padres will be tied going into the last game of the season. Moncada goes 5-5 and hits for the cycle but Big Game James comes through in the clutch again with a 4 HR performance. Despite being so young, Tatis Jr. has surprisingly tore up the minors and has earned a September call-up. The Padres enter the 9th inning down a run but start a rally with 2 outs. Tatis Jr. becomes a White Sox hero when he knocks in two runs with the game winning single, securing the #1 overall pick for the White Sox. He goes on to become a solid regular but Sox fans quickly forget about him when Seth Beer becomes the first non-Trout AL player to lead the league in WAR in nearly a decade in his rookie year, leading the Sox to the playoffs. This is great.

What. Did. I. Just. Read.

I think trading Jones right now for a haul and hoping DRob rebounds next year is the right thing to do. The Sox might want to give Jones a chance to close to build up his value even more, but his value could take a hit if he struggles in that role.

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:26 PM) What? AKA having a guy on the team that isn't particularly liked by the opposition.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) No one wants them. They have zero trade value. This simply isn't true.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 3m Rockies are making a big push for Greg Holland, and word is they are getting close to a deal This is great. Washington could be forced to go to Robertson now. and maybe Colorado gets more serious about adding Q.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:50 AM) Does it look like they are trading everyone still? Also it was more like a month ago that I said that. If they do still unload everyone I'll go back to thinking they could have a high 2018 draft pick, but right now this is probably a 75+ win team. So you think they'll only be 3 games worse than last year after getting rid of Sale and Eaton while replacing them with nothing but trash? Lol c'mon man.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) Its time to let go of this delusion. Sox will be picking ~10th again. Doubt it, especially if they trade Q. I think 5th-7th is the worst case scenario if Q is traded before the season.

Being a bad teammate is one thing, but being having a "douche" is something that I think every team needs. Kopech sort of fits that mold too.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) This doesn't make sense though and isn't how teams operate. They haven't gotten the offers they wanted. If someone offers them what they want next Wednesday or Thursday or the following week, they'll trade Quintana. It's much more about teams not ponying up than some arbitrary deadline. If they keep him until the deadline it's not because that was the plan. It's because nobody offered enough to pull the trigger. Well you said "They won't be trading him prior to Soxfest or this weekend." What if someone caves and offers them what they want tomorrow? I don't think the events over the weekend would prevent any trade from happening this week, nor is Soxfest any different of an arbitrary deadline than before the end of Spring Training. The bottom line is that these things are fluid and can change at any time. Hahn just has to hold firm in his wants and shouldn't be willing to sacrifice...yet.