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People in my office are hooting and hollering right now because they heard Heyward signed with the Cubs, can anyone confirm? EDIT: Nevermind, it was a fake Ken Rosenthal tweet.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) I still think if Arrieta regresses at all they're f***ed. Unless he regresses to Baltimore levels I don't think it would hurt them that bad. I see him in the 2.50-2.75 ERA range next year, which would still make him one of the top pitchers. I also think Heyward will be worth his contract, hope the Cardinals get it done.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) I'll try and help you with that. Lawrie hit .260 and Avi .257. Lawrie had 16HR/60RBI and Avi had 13/59. Lawrie 28 walks and Avi 36. Avi 7 steals and Lawrie 5. Maybe it is me, but their stats are very comparable. So I say again, if you were happy w Avi as an offensive player in 2015, Lawrie put up very similiar numbers. Both also struggled defensively. So maybe we have another Avi at 3B. I like Avi so I assume I will like Lawrie. Lawrie: 94 wRC+, .409 SLG, .148 ISO Avi: 83 wRC+, .365 SLG, .108 ISO The average AL RF also had a 107 wRC+, whereas the average AL 3B had a 99 wRC+. I wouldn't call that very similar. Lawrie was also worth almost 2 WAR more than Garcia, and that was a clear down year.

Will he get more than $200 million?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) As I've said the last few days I'm not a big Lawrie fan but he's much better than anything we had and we gave up nothing so I'm definitely happy about the trade. That said, I don't expect him to make a jump or "figure it out" here, that doesn't happen with us and hitters, he is what he is. Happened with Eaton.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) At this point, the most recent incident is only about 2 weeks old. There's no way to know what MLB's investigative team will do or how they'll treat these - there's literally no precedent since it's a brand new rule. You could very readily trade for him and then lose him for a substantial amount of time to a suspension. Same reason the Dodgers Chapman deal is currently "on hold". @JonHeymanCBS Dodgers have moved on from chapman and are weighing Andrew miller among other pitchers and also hitters

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:03 AM) One thing the team doesn't need, IMO, is a utility infielder. Saladino and Sanchez both look better than the options available to me. My guess is, they don't pick anyone. But if they do, they grab an arm. More likely, they will lose someone. And of course they will probably be active in the minor league phase. Do we need a utility outfielder either? Shuck was solid last year and Thompson seems like the ideal 4th OF.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:46 AM) Every hot stove season, I read posts saying "Imagine how many more home runs he would hit playing 81 games at the Cell". I have seen similar thoughts in the Brett Lawrie thread. How many Sox acquisitions have actually increased their power moving to the South Side? I know that many FA signings have been busts for one reason or another, but the whole increased power never seems to come to fruition with the hitters the Sox acquire. Last year I believe it played as a pitchers park, but I think that was based on some randomness from the Sox D/pitching, overall it has still been a hitters park. It's not really a hitter's park except for homeruns.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 07:38 AM) If this was the best available 3B then I agree. He is a big step up from Saladino offensively and a big step down defensively. As I posted previously, his numbers are very comparable to Avi on offense and defense and both strike out too much. Lawrie's K% is 18.6% for his career, that is below the major league average. Also, his 1.8 WAR projection would mean a 3 WAR improvement over what we got from 3B in 2015.

Would be more upset losing Fulmer than Anderson.

@MarkBermanFox26 Told #Astros getting closer Ken Giles from Phillies for pitchers: Vince Velasquez, Bret Oberholtzer &OF Derek Fisher, pending physicals. Pretty good haul for the Phillies.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:49 PM) I think it's almost a guaranteed that Hayward lands with the Cubs or Cards... More likely the Cubs at this point. I think he winds up with neither of those teams.

Can't we just make a move without talking about the damn Cubs?

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 08:58 PM) Anybody think Montas, Micah, Avi, and Jordan Guerrero gets it done for Frazier? And if so would you want to do it from our side? I would do it, doubt the Reds would though.

Low risk, potential high reward, even if he doesn't rebound it's an upgrade, exactly the types of moves we should be making right now. So happy we didn't give up Thompson or Engel.

We're better at all three slots.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:52 PM) http://www.csnbayarea.com/athletics/source...de-talks-lawrie Just saw this. Don't know if it's been posted yet Stay strong Hahn.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) Two years of Todd Frazier (and not awful pricing for those two years, either) is totally worth Tim Anderson. We can't be delusional about our prospects. Tim Anderson is Top 50 but in so many other farm systems he would not be the #1. Defense and Ks have not been solved. It's a very fair price for a legit all-star 3b who is not old. Not when we have as many holes as we do. If Frazier was one of the final pieces to put us over the top, then yeah sure trade Anderson for him. But he's not.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 15m15 minutes ago Official on Reds' efforts to move Todd Frazier: "I wouldn't be surprised if he got traded." At this point, not enough traction in CLE talks. To me, it seems like the Indians could put together a much stronger package with Salazar leading the way. Let them be the ones to overpay.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) There are going to be some grumpy people on here if nothing gets done before the meetings end. There's going to be grumpy people regardless of what happens.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) You would think they would be if the Sox let it known that he were available. I think since we haven't heard of interest from a team like Pit, you know that Sox really aren't looking to make a deal involving Q. I don't think Pitt has the ammo to make a Quintana deal with them worthwhile.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Someone who is under team control for 3 or more years. Agreed, I'd be down for trading him but not for any short-term rentals with the team in its current state.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) I know this has been discussed a bunch in the Shelby Miller thread, but if this is the environment, perhaps the Sox should stop trying to patch together a playoff team next year and get on the right side of all the overpays. +1

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:58 PM) I would absolutely support an Anderson/Adams/M. Johnson deal Maybe if Frazier had 3 years of control, but only 2 I say no way.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) Except Dom is the guy who gets the Ace with the power stuff. I don't see him overpaying for Q. I could see him overpaying for Sale but not Q. Q is quietly one of the best pitchers in baseball and a bargain, but that "quietly" part is going to prevent people from overpaying for him (imo). He might be underrated and unknown among baseball fans, but I'm pretty positive baseball front offices know how valuable he is. They wouldn't be very good at their jobs if they didn't.