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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) You got me too. Only a troll would question 8 million for a pitcher who gave up homers at an alarming rate. I'm just not into 81 wins and home run derby like you sages You really love making conclusions based off small sample sizes.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) He's already 29. It seems like power relievers like him decline around that age, or at least lose some of their velocity/pure stuff. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Jones being as good as he was during the duration of this contract. He's being paid pennies though, $8M over 3 years is nothing in this day and age. Even if he declines a bit he'll easily be worth the contract. QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 11:14 AM) How much would he have earned in Arb? Looks like more sentimentality At this point I'm 90% convinced you've been trolling us this whole time. This can't be a serious post.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) I thought that was the Mariners (Lind). Pirates traded for Jason Rogers.

He was a bit on and off this year, but he was also coming off injury. When he's on he's as nasty as anyone. Good deal.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 09:58 AM) Give them another call, phone stalk them, throw in another 2 million. Do whatever it takes to open up the DH spot for Melky and bring in 2 outfielders. Cmon Hahn! Pirates just traded for a 1B from the Brewers, right? That door is closed.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 09:29 AM) They don't need to dump Robertson, just back load any free agent deal so the Danks/Laroche money that is coming off the books next year gets reallocated. It's been posted before and remains valid imo. If we are going to go for the wildcard, we shouldn't be dumping an established closer. Internal option-wise, Nate Jones scares me as a 9th inning guy, but I'll take him in the 7th/8th as a bridge to #30. Why is the wildcard the goal here? The division is wide open and for the taking, especially if we get Upton or Cespedes.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 09:18 AM) Don't ever believe teams are truly out on a player even when they say they're "out". A lot of bluffing going on. That being said it's been reported that the Sox need to clear some space to sign one of these guys. Personally I'd trade LaRoche to Pittsburgh and pick up whatever part of the salary the Sox have to pick up just to get him out of here, at this point he adds nothing to the team. Then I'd try to deal Robertson. There might be some teams that would be interested in him and I'm of the belief that you can always find a closer either in house or sign a few guys on 1 year deals to compete for it. Robertson's deal is probably holding up a signing right now. Hahn already offered to pay $8 million of LaRoche's salary to the Pirates and they turned it down.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 09:12 AM) Ken Rosenthal just said on MLBN that an O's beat writer said that the O's aren't spending 100 million+ on a player other than Chris Davis. So now, that is the Angels, Giants, Cardinals, and O's now out on the big OFs. That leaves the Sox, Nationals, Tigers, and Royals that have reported interest in the big 3 OFs. Doesn't feel like the Tigers/Royals would be in on Upton either, seems like he's there for the taking.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 18, 2015 -> 07:20 AM) Alexei does not improve this team. There really is an absolute disdain for imperfect young players in this organization. Love the mediocre vets however. Then how do you explain all the opportunities Beckham and Viciedo got to turn it around? Also Hahn already said Saladino was going to be the SS, you're making s*** up again.

QUOTE (JRL @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 07:55 PM) He's streaky month to month (though that accurately describes many hitters, pretty much all but the very elite), but very consistent year to year. The OBP has declined the last 2 years, but so has the overall offensive environment in baseball as compared to earlier in Upton's career. His OPS+ in each of the last 2 years though have been very much consistent with his single season OPS+s throughout his career. In fact, 2014 was his second best year in that category, so I wouldn't worry too much. The lefty splits are very weird, and its really hard to think of an explanation for it other than being an anomaly. He's 28 years old, right handed and had actually hit lefties slightly better throughout his career prior to last season. I do not like Cespedes at all. Very inconsistent year to year. Very good rookie year, great contract year (albeit spurred by an unsustainable almost historical hot streak that's totally above and beyond his career numbers), and lots of meh in the 2 seasons in between. Gimme Gordon or Upton Lefty splits can vary greatly from year to year because the sample size is usually pretty small, just look at Abreu in 2014 vs. 2015, his numbers were pretty much exactly the same against RHP, but while he mashed LHP in 2014 he was terrible against them this year. I don't think either season really tells the whole story. Upton mashed lefties in 2013 and 2014, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 06:54 PM) It's amazing how underrated the guy remains but it's not surprising to hear it anymore. He could not let up a run next season and he'll finish 20th in the cy young race. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/appreciating-jose-quintana/ That's why I love this article. Author states that by pretty much any metric Quintana is at worst a top 15-20 SP in baseball, yet a lot of baseball fans don't think of him that way for whatever reason.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 06:53 PM) One less double, one more triple, and 6 less homers. I mean if you want to nitpick, whatever, but the guy still mashed. The cheapie home run stat is pretty lame Putting Laroche and Abreu on the same "falloff" plane using the cheapie home run stat is equally as lame Not sure 10 feet is significant enough to worry about either.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) Don't hate. Appreciate. What kind of sources do you have?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) I'm hoping we add Maeda. Then hope Danks does well and we can move him at the deadline and slide EJ in his spot. I'd rather sign Upton over Maeda. I don't think Danks or LaRoche's salaries are going to be a big concern, they both only have 1 year left. If by the deadline they're really struggling and a better option presents itself from within or elsewhere, I doubt we'd keep playing them just because of the salary. We really don't have better options for those two positions right now, so there's no reason not to play them. At least give LaRoche a chance to see if he can bounce back, that's the best option at this point. That can change mid-season though depending on how things play out.

Resources are pretty limited, Hahn already said they'd have to get creative to sign an Upton or Cespedes. Assuming that happens, I'd rather just roll with Saladino at SS. At that point our lineup will look pretty good, and Saladino will be fine there. As for another SP, meh, roll with EJ/Danks and if there's an injury or EJ sucks then pick someone up at the deadline.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) Great, cause he's the best fit of anyone. How about a 4 year $70M deal to get conversations started. I don't think he's the best fit because he plays LF, we need someone to play RF.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) He had a worse year defensively last year than Murphy ever has. Wasn't it partly due to coming off knee surgery? Though Zobrist is one of those guys that is hard to peg defensively because of all the crazy shifts the Rays did with him.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) well goddamn. im used to the previous years where he .200, .272, .171. Although he only had 200 ABs last year Helps when over 25% of his AB were against us.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) Raburn would be a good get just in terms of the Sox not having to pitch to the guy next year LOL Seriously, Raburn alone cost us 2-3 wins last year it feels like.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) It really is. That station is at the point of being unlistenable for every program now. This is almost across all Chicago media now where the story is, the White Sox are not the cubs. Every move the cubs make is gold and every move the Sox make is going to fail. I loved when the WGN morning show felt the need to point out Frazier is going to be 30 and hit poorly in the second half of 2015. That's the same age as Arrieta, is anyone trying to say he is old? I don't get it, if 30 is so old then the Cubs should have stayed far away from Zobrist and Lackey.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 10:14 AM) Was he specifically asked about adding another big bat? They are still lacking 1 hitter in the middle of that lineup. Yes he was asked about adding one of the big FA outfielders to replace Avi.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 09:58 AM) Frazier on Hot Stove...actually this is Hahn. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/677515071761702912 That was much better than the Score interview, good stuff.

That was worthless, Hahn sounded frustrated with the KW "who's calling the shots" question and I don't blame him.

Of course the first question is why the Sox didn't go the rebuild route like the Cubs did.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 17, 2015 -> 09:22 AM) Welcome to the "White Sox are cheap and don't care as much about winning as the bottom line" offseason when all the remaining big names come off the board and musical chairs leaves the Sox as the last team left out in the cold. Half-in=death by 1,000 knife cuts I couldn't roll my eyes harder at this post if I tried.