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A decent society never accepts or justifies torture. It dehumanizes both torturer and victim, yet seldom produces reliable intelligence. Torture by rogue American troops or agents puts all Americans at risk, especially our rank-and-file soldiers stationed in dozens of dangerous places around the globe. --Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) From the WoPo: "Pentagon investigations in recent months have said there have been about 300 allegations of prisoners killed, raped, beaten and subjected to other mistreatment at military prisons in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay since the start of the war on terror." So Killa, I'd say rape and murder are torture. We must preserve our beacon of shining democracy but acting in authoritarian quasi-fascist ways to do so? If we allow ourselves to justify and participate in torture etc. then the terrorists truly did win.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/p...29-100950-5769r This is from the Moonie Times so take it for what it's worth (whatever creedence you give to a conservatively slanted paper whose owner believes that he is the 2nd coming of the messiah )

The Cheat -- in a thread about a group of girls that lit a canine on fire

Craftsman could be red and yellow definitely could be Black and Decker... There we go -- we could just have "Today is Home Depot" instead of orange alert,

Menards promotes green so they can be a promotion with "Low". Lowe's can have blue and "Guarded." What can we get for yellow and red?

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1129/dailyUpdate.html

Maybe they can get another guy to promote the purchase of duct tape and plastic sheeting. May I suggest the following possible appointee?

Religious fundamentalism brings more positivity and sunshine to the world.

Plus the Dutch are part of the "Coalition of the Willing" as well for the Iraq war. So that might go somewhat into explaining why the events happened.

Theo Van Gogh was kind of a douche. He had a book "Allah Knows Best" which was basically mocking Islam throughout the entire book. Van Gogh created the 10-minute movie "Submission". The film is about violence against women in Islamic societies. It shows four abused women, naked under see-through dresses with Qur'anic verses in Arabic unfavourable to women, painted on their bodies. After the movie was released, both van Gogh and Hirsi Ali received death threats. Van Gogh did not take these very seriously and refused any protection. As a newspaper columnist, he was known for being provocative and politically incorrect. He caused resentment in the Moroccan community by consistently referring to them as "geitenneukers" (goatf***ers), and incurred the wrath of leading members of the Jewish community by making comments about, as he saw it, the Jewish preoccupation with Auschwitz. He was also a staunch supporter of President Bush, and the American-led invasion of Iraq.

http://www.alexchiu.com/ One of my favorite quotes from the site

/waits for Cali to put up the pic of the "Even Jesus Hates Creed" t-shirt.

Ended up being 23 pages. Who would think that one could write that much on the development of a Palestinian nationalist militant movement among refugees as a result of the 1967 war? And Tex, I don't understand why you're so worried about cloning -- major media TV stations have been doing that to their public for years.

I should have been more clear. Note: Don't write a 20+ page history research paper while trying to debate on Soxtalk.

Only a day?!

First off Evil Monkey (and completely off topic) did you get my PM? Secondly, how many average Iraqis knew it was going on? I Googled the topic and found this: "This cowboy behavior cannot be accepted," cleric Abdullah Abu Omar of the Ramadi Mosque told the Associated Press. I think he was blanketing both sides with this statement. And in some further Googling I found this --"The hadith (narration on the prophet) states that he hid in the Mosque his weapons to fight. First off we must remember that the hadiths are not part of the Qu'ran, but many Muslims follow it...Groups of their "Jihad" are trying to follow the procedure of Muhammad, the way that Muhammad was able to fight the unbelievers." Ah religious fundamentalism, you cause yet more death and destruction. Nothing wrong with religion per se, but when anybody starts getting militant about it -- they might want to calm down and do something else with some of their time.

No -- your comment about Sarandon, Depp etc. was a cheap slam at the "liberal elites" because obviously only liberals are rich elites. I was just pointing out that Bush and his administration (and most prominent Republicans) are not good old down home blue collar boys.

Let's bring up Neil Cavuto saying "Am I slanted and biased? You damn well bet I am" or saying that OBL was wearing a Kerry button in his Nov. 1 speech. Or how about Ollie North who should be rotting in a prison right now being given a show, or Sean Hannity's numerous lies and distortions that he doesn't apologize for. If one is angry at Rather for making a mistake then one should also take the entire Fox News Channel to task for their lax policies in fact checking and being "fair and balanced". And for journalistic integrity: A report in the Los Angeles Times on November 1, 2003 quoted Charlie Reina, a former FOX News producer, saying FOX News executives require the network's on-air anchors and reporters to cover news stories from a right-wing viewpoint and distributed a daily memo explaining what stories to highlight and how to report them. You can read the memos online.

Yeah cuz a guy who went to private high school in Andover and then to Yale and Harvard and whose family is worth billions isn't elite by any means.

Nuke, firstly it's not a "loony left site" -- The Nation is actually a fairly respect magazine in academic circles. If you actually read the article, you'd see that they did analyze the Justice Department statements. And if we get technical about Justice Department conviction rates...The General Accounting Office [non-partisan investigating arm of Congress] asked by REPUBLICAN Dan Burton to investigate so many cases being labeled terrorism when they actually had some of the following examples: "An Arizona man who got drunk on a United Airlines flight from Shanghai, repeatedly rang the call button and demanded more liquor." That was considered "domestic terrorism" by the Justice Department. From Sept. 30, 2001 to Sept. 30, 2002, the Justice Department maintained that 288 terrorists had been convicted in the US of their crimes. But the GAO found that at least 132 of these cases had NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM. Because of the GAO methodology, it did not verify all of the remaining convictions but called them all "highly questionable". The deception is worse when you go to "international terrorism" deemed cases by the Justice Department. Out of 174 convictions, 131+ were not about terror at all. In the first months of 2003, out of 56 cases of "terrorism", the GAO found out that over 41 were cases having nothing to do with terrorism. One prosecutor of a case said that he had no idea why the case he was handling would be considered terrorism. But I guess the investigating arm of Congress is just another "leftist bomb throwing site". And if we get more technical, Stalin was left in rhetoric only. His movements smack of pure rightist authoritarianism. I have a friend who is getting a master's in Russian history -- lots of fun research I got to see about documents from the US and Russian government where the policies enacted by the Soviets were quite capitalist. As for your statement about the Constitution -- when the administration proves that they are actually capturing "terrorists" instead of preventative detentions with no evidence and no convictions, then I'll be on their side. If there is so much evidence that these people are terrorists, here's a novel idea -- convict them in a court instead of "We're throwing these people in a prison without counsel because we're the government and you're supposed to trust us." If they have the evidence, prove it.

Nuke read the book "It's a Free Country." It is filled with stories of preventative detentions of "potential terrorists" (What the Hell is a potential terrorist anyway? That's quite an Orwellian term cuz damn near anybody is a potential terrorist.) with no evidence to back up the charges. http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041004&s=cole -- Ashcroft 0 for 5,000 in trying to get "terrorists" You may be willing to sacrifice the Constitutional republic at the altar of authoritarianism for Bush and his cronies, but I'd rather not sacrifice it for anything. By torturing people, any claims made by Bush about other nations ending torture become hollow bulls***. Plus not ending torture making him a liar again. And Nuke, what the Hell are you defending if it's not the Constitution? It makes no sense to go out "promoting freedom and democracy" abroad when we don't even have it at home.

I've talked to people who were there -- lots of them.