Squirmin' for Yermin

Does anyone know yet if we actually had the higher guaranteed dollars offer?

Good. I wanted nothing to do with him

Call the DBacks and ask about Ray I guess..

People look too deeply into whether a SP is right handed or left handed

This would be my ideal SP targets at this point.. SINCE we won't go after the big two.. and still this would make the offseason very disappointing.

That he's thrown 200+ innings since he was 20 years old. He got in a serious RTV accident a few years ago that fucked up his shoulder for two years. Pass.

please no.

please no.

F it.. I'd rather do that than sign Keuchel or Bumgarner Sadly, I believe many of the top bullpen guys are gone.

I bet we did 6 years - 125 million or something like that.. If I were Zach I'd take the 5-118 too

He is better. BUT he can only pitch 120 innings.. I would be fine with Ryu. 3 years-50 million.

I wonder who is even available.. I will be FURIOUS if we have to trade Madrigal or vaughn to grab a SP when we could have just offered Wheeler 10 million more or whatever.. Furious I tell you.

Every pitcher is risky, but I'd be shocked if people thought Bum, Keuchel and Ryu were less risky.. Ryu is glass man. Keuchel has fallen far from the tree and Bumgarner is a ticking time bomb imo.

Yeah, prove to me it was guaranteed money... @raBBit? You know?

But is Rosenthal commenting on actual guaranteed money or did we pull another Machado fiasco with bonus' and other escalating clasuses

wow... the one fucking time we don't sign the relatives, family, best friends, uncles, imaginary friends and all that, of the player we want to sign and it actually would have made a difference.

I just can't see it without one of the top 3 SP. And apparently we have no interest in the top 2

This is kinda where I stand too

Cooper can barely wipe his own ass... Please leave the forum

Joc rumors come.. We lose Manny... Joc rumors come.. We lose Wheeler.

So unless we are targeting the top 2 SP... Which we aren't... Let's just create a monster offsensive squad and trade for JDM and Joc.... LOL,

Fuck it... Let's just make a monster offense... LOL Trade for JDM and trade for Joc. Let's just outscore everyone to get to 81-81.

Neither do I... Those appear to me to be the riskiest of SP deals this offseason.. Both I predict to blow up almost immediately., And I've stood by that all offseason

Man... I honestly said if we didn't get one of the top 3 SP (knowing the top 2 weren't happening) that this offseason would probably be a failure... And I don't see anyway around that still... I can't be happy with a Keuchel led SP offseason lol

Signing two multiple year guys makes no sense unless the second was like Ryu.. Now that Ryu is likely the best we can do idk what do do... Bumgarner and Keuchel interest me very little...