RockRaines Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) Rich on rich hate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) The bigger thing on this is that PFN was not pressuring the QB and as such simply throwing the ball as he did is not intentional grounding. In the OSU game, the guy threw it into the stands. This QB threw the ball in the field of play and one could argue the receiver just did not run his route. This happens in games all of the time and if the QB is not under duress, it is not a call you make. That aspect is on the officials who before enforcing the penalty should have gotten together and waved off the flag. If none of the five could get it right wave it off and go home. You would think after the OSU game someone would have gotten it right. There are much better ways to kill two seconds than this and this is as much on the Fenwick coaching staff as the officials. Take four steps back and take a knee. Run out the back of the end zone. Do not take a knee on on the other downs. This does suck for Fenwick though. Harry, good post as usual. Thanks for explaining that "if the QB is not under duress, you don't call the grounding." I did not know that. At first I was thinking, "How stupid of Fenwick to not just have the QB run a few steps back or to the side and then take a knee." Just out of curiosity, why is the rule that the QB can heave the ball downfield if he's not under duress? That seems like a creepy way to assure victory with five seconds left or so. It sure looks like grounding even if it isn't. I saw a quote in the Trib where the Fenwick coach was driving home and assumed he'd cost his kids a victory. Even he figured the grounding call was correct, cause it LOOKS like grounding. This is one, unfortunate situation. My take is the courts can't get involved and change an outcome of a sporting event and they did the right thing, simply because games are lost by refs calls and all sorts of blunders all the time. I do understand the sentiment of the poster saying PN should refuse to play the final because it's good sportsmanship. they didn't even rush the passer. However, they did win fair and square in OT after the bad bad call. Very sad situation. Would Fenwick have been favored in the final or expected to get mauled by East St. Looie? Edited November 25, 2016 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 24, 2016 -> 10:43 PM) Harry, good post as usual. Thanks for explaining that "if the QB is not under duress, you don't call the grounding." I did not know that. At first I was thinking, "How stupid of Fenwick to not just have the QB run a few steps back or to the side and then take a knee." Just out of curiosity, why is the rule that the QB can heave the ball downfield if he's not under duress? That seems like a creepy way to assure victory with five seconds left or so. It sure looks like grounding even if it isn't. I saw a quote in the Trib where the Fenwick coach was driving home and assumed he'd cost his kids a victory. Even he figured the grounding call was correct, cause it LOOKS like grounding. This is one, unfortunate situation. My take is the courts can't get involved and change an outcome of a sporting event and they did the right thing, simply because games are lost by refs calls and all sorts of blunders all the time. I do understand the sentiment of the poster saying PN should refuse to play the final because it's good sportsmanship. they didn't even rush the passer. However, they did win fair and square in OT after the bad bad call. Very sad situation. Would Fenwick have been favored in the final or expected to get mauled by East St. Looie? Neither team would be expected to beat ESTL. Even if it;'s deemed Intentional Grounding, the game is still over. It can end on an offensive penalty. The officials did a horrible job. I bet if Fenwick asked for a meeting immediately though they could have held up the outcome. I for one would not have sent my team out for overtime without an explanation but the coach didn't know. The judge should have told him to take the safety next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Rochester offense is a machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 It sucks for Carlinville that they were the best team in 3A but had to play a 7A school in the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Wish there was an answer for how to treat Catholic football teams in the playoffs. IC has less than 500 kids so not sure 7A would be an accurate class for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 26, 2016 -> 09:22 AM) Wish there was an answer for how to treat Catholic football teams in the playoffs. IC has less than 500 kids so not sure 7A would be an accurate class for them. They have 300 kids in their school. They pull from a much larger area than Carlinville though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 26, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) They have 300 kids in their school. They pull from a much larger area than Carlinville though. IHSA has IC listed at 495 enrollment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Maine South! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 25, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) Neither team would be expected to beat ESTL. Even if it;'s deemed Intentional Grounding, the game is still over. It can end on an offensive penalty. The officials did a horrible job. I bet if Fenwick asked for a meeting immediately though they could have held up the outcome. I for one would not have sent my team out for overtime without an explanation but the coach didn't know. The judge should have told him to take the safety next time. Fenwick was more to blame than anyone there. I saw ESL against Providence and they were in my mind the best team in the state. They had talent all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Rice is going to struggle this year. The junior will eventually start at QB. Marist is pretty good. I did not see the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Apparently my alma mater Lake Park beat the #4 team in the state Waubonsie Valley on the road last night 35-33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Rice's QB looks horrible. Only watched the second half. He got replaced for the final drive. Probably didn't help their OL was getting demolished. Anyways that's not going to work in the offense they run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 26, 2017 -> 05:42 PM) Rice's QB looks horrible. Only watched the second half. He got replaced for the final drive. Probably didn't help their OL was getting demolished. Anyways that's not going to work in the offense they run. Rice probably should start the junior and play the senior QB on defense somewhere. The senior must be a decent athlete if he split time at QB in the opener. That second half was mighty ugly for Rice, although holding Marist to 23 points is light years better than the defenses in the Badke era. Anybody surprised St. Laurence got smashed at home in the opener by Benet? I thought Laurence was gonna return to its old glory days. Maybe it's just the opener: anything can happen in openers. Edited August 26, 2017 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Crete beat Bro Rice. 0-2. Is Crete any good? Bummerville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 1, 2017 -> 11:53 PM) Crete beat Bro Rice. 0-2. Is Crete any good? Bummerville. Crete should have beaten lwe last week they are good. Kick in nuts......Crete coach is rice grad and was passed over for job Somebody at rice needs to realize playoff points are not better than wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 LWE beat Crete 27-7. Not sure how CM shouldve won that. LWE then beats Maine South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 So Lake Park now has beaten Waubonsie Valley and Wheaton Warrenville South and is 2-0 in a always tough DVC. Could they be for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 So Brother Rice scored 55 vs some Aurora school. Does that mean the youngsters have found themselves and they'll win win win? Or is that Aurora school lousy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 9, 2017 -> 11:11 PM) So Brother Rice scored 55 vs some Aurora school. Does that mean the youngsters have found themselves and they'll win win win? Or is that Aurora school lousy? Aurora was 2-0 but they're a small school. Rice's schedule this year is pretty brutal. I'd kinda be shocked if they made playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) Aurora was 2-0 but they're a small school. Rice's schedule this year is pretty brutal. I'd kinda be shocked if they made playoffs. Thanks Brian. Anybody from the South Side or Catholic League got a great team this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 01:46 PM) Thanks Brian. Anybody from the South Side or Catholic League got a great team this year? If you're looking for respectable area rankings, Edgy is the man. http://www.csnchicago.com/preps-talk/edgy-...nkings-week-4-0 I'm a northern area guy so hard for me to answer who's in the south burbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 02:09 PM) If you're looking for respectable area rankings, Edgy is the man. http://www.csnchicago.com/preps-talk/edgy-...nkings-week-4-0 I'm a northern area guy so hard for me to answer who's in the south burbs. I think Lincoln Way East is the best team in the South Suburbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 02:11 PM) I think Lincoln Way East is the best team in the South Suburbs. Easily right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 02:11 PM) I think Lincoln Way East is the best team in the South Suburbs. They are the best team in the state. When LWW closes in the next couple of years LWC will be just as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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