April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) How so? Starting with how he got his manager for one.
April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) How so? Epstein went over slot amounts in the draft for years but teams weren't technically penalized for doing so. In this case, I believe it's a lot different.
April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:40 PM) Epstein went over slot amounts in the draft for years but teams weren't technically penalized for doing so. In this case, I believe it's a lot different. That's not really bending the rules. That's following them. It would be the same today for the "salary cap." They can go over it's just that you have to pay for it. It's not like he "bent" rules suffered a penalty decreed by the commissioner.
April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:39 PM) Starting with how he got his manager for one. Maddon opted out from Tampa Bay. He certaintly bent the rules on that one.
April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:40 PM) Epstein went over slot amounts in the draft for years but teams weren't technically penalized for doing so. In this case, I believe it's a lot different. That wasn't against the rules.
April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) Maddon opted out from Tampa Bay. He certaintly bent the rules on that one. The Cubs tampered with him as to the status of his contract in order to try to get him to opt out.
April 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) The Cubs tampered with him as to the status of his contract in order to try to get him to opt out. No more so than anyone else who opts out of a contract. They tend to know they are going to be doing a lot better.
April 10, 20178 yr MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 16h16 hours ago Shohei Otani implies that international spending limits in the new CBA won't stop him from coming to the majors https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/04/latest-on-shohei-otani-3.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...-otani-3.html ://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017....-otani-3.html
April 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 16h16 hours ago Shohei Otani implies that international spending limits in the new CBA won't stop him from coming to the majors https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/04/latest-on-shohei-otani-3.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...-otani-3.html ://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017....-otani-3.html ://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017....-otani-3.html Otani might just be available to the Sox and just about every other team next year. Perhaps the AL has the edge in getting him. If his agreement with the Ham Fighters management is that he can leave when he wants to, is posting him even necessary ? Wouldn't he just say sayonara to Japan and come as a free agent ? Sox could use him as a pitcher and / or OF'er . He wants to play both in the States and the teams that agree to that stipulation will have the best chance.
April 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 08:06 PM) Otani might just be available to the Sox and just about every other team next year. Perhaps the AL has the edge in getting him. If his agreement with the Ham Fighters management is that he can leave when he wants to, is posting him even necessary ? Wouldn't he just say sayonara to Japan and come as a free agent ? Sox could use him as a pitcher and / or OF'er . He wants to play both in the States and the teams that agree to that stipulation will have the best chance. I do not see the White Sox winning a bidding war for Otani Period.
April 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) I will be shocked if MLB truly cares. The owners wanted price certainty. The MLB wants best players in game to play there. There won't be many more situations like Otani. They'll say not in spirit of rules and maybe change it in next CBA. Hahn said in his interview with WSD that if someone skirts the CBA rules to sign Otani and then extend him before his arb years that the league would come down very hard.
April 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) I do not see the White Sox winning a bidding war for Otani Period. Teams can't get into a "bidding war." Teams will be capped due to new CBA rules. Don't compare this situation to a Tanaka or Abreu signing. It's not the same as trying to sign a non-amateur international free agent. The most a team can give him right now is what, $10 mill? And Hahn said in that redline radio interview that a team would face scrutiny and be punished if he signed a big deal after only a year or two of MLB service. Edited April 11, 20178 yr by soxfan2014
April 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Hahn said in his interview with WSD that if someone skirts the CBA rules to sign Otani and then extend him before his arb years that the league would come down very hard. To be fair, true or not, there is no other answer for Hahn to give.
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