Can we really trust CNN though?

It's amazing their fake news and the failing NYT reports have forced Jared Kushner to amend his security clearance forms several times. For some reason they reminded him of some meetings he totally forgot about.

The number of people who attended the collusion meeting is now up to eight, with three still not identified.

 

https://twitter.com/NickKristof/status/8859...src=twsrc%5Etfw

And Agent Orange didn't know. OK.

 

I think I heard it was 2 days after this meeting the DNC was hacked.

Edited July 14, 20178 yr by Dick Allen

Trump Jr.’s Russia meeting sure sounds like a Russian intelligence operation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trum...m=.2ccd782cc83c

 

 

It's ridiculous that kushner still has a security clearance at this point after lying repeatedly on his disclosure forms. He gets his get own version of the presidential daily briefing everyday and is privy to our nation's most closely held secrets.

Good discussion on the "lie after lie after lie" between Shep Smith and Chris Wallace

 

https://youtu.be/Q5LftyJmNtA

8 days after meeting with Jr. The Russian attorney got a front row seat at a Foreign Affairs committee hearing from the husband of Trump's Florida campaign chair. It's all a coincidence.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russian-law...ory?id=48661448

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/16/politics/tru...tter/index.html

 

You would think Trump would be bored with going after HRC by now...

I do think the playbook of mentioning Hillary every time there is a crisis is getting pretty old. If she is a criminal, charge her with something or STFU.

I do think the playbook of mentioning Hillary every time there is a crisis is getting pretty old. If she is a criminal, charge her with something or STFU.

 

His entire playbook is 3 pages

I do think the playbook of mentioning Hillary every time there is a crisis is getting pretty old. If she is a criminal, charge her with something or STFU.

The "me too" narrative works with the base.

Only 45% of Trump voters believe that Donald Jr has a meeting with Russians, a thing he has publicly admitted to.

 

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/8870425...src=twsrc%5Etfw

Only 45% of Trump voters believe that Donald Jr has a meeting with Russians, a thing he has publicly admitted to.

 

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/8870425...src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

I'd be curious to see what the question was. There's a difference IMO between people believing that Trump Jr. met with a Russian citizen versus "Russia" or an agent of Russia. Do we know if those Russians in the meeting were agents speaking on behalf of the Putin?

I'd be curious to see what the question was. There's a difference IMO between people believing that Trump Jr. met with a Russian citizen versus "Russia" or an agent of Russia. Do we know if those Russians in the meeting were agents speaking on behalf of the Putin?

The claim that they were probably got them the meeting. Now what was said in said meeting is anyone's guess. Considering how many times Jr. has already lied about it, I don't think we can take his version as gospel. And it was only a couple of days later the DNC did get hacked by Russia. I know, just more coincidence. None of these guys ever even met with Russians. Jared has only amended his security clearance forms 3 times. There is no reason he should continue to have access.

I'd be curious to see what the question was. There's a difference IMO between people believing that Trump Jr. met with a Russian citizen versus "Russia" or an agent of Russia. Do we know if those Russians in the meeting were agents speaking on behalf of the Putin?

 

Do you really think Putin would expose himself to that type of liability....you can implicitly intimate that the meeting has his blessing, without an explicit admission of his direct involvement.

 

It's the way he and Trump are always covered and underlings can be sacrificed to take the follow and insulate the top dogs.

 

 

 

Eventually, they'll have to pick a fall guy (would love it to be Kushner, but unlikely) and pardon most of the others. Everyone gets away without any consequences, that won't play in the media with how long this story has stretched...and it certainly will have legs into 2018 and the November elections. Dems get control of the House again, it will be even more fireworks.

Edited July 18, 20178 yr by caulfield12

When Flynn was sitting right next to Putin at an event, Putin claimed to have no idea who he was. OK.

I have a feeling everything will be pinned on Manafort, Stone, Page...someone the admin no longer has any investment in, already fired/disgraced, etc.

 

Flynn will be pardoned as an "American Hero/Patriot." Civilians, though....beware.

Trump has gone from no contact whatsoever with Russia, fake news, to it's just politics. The guy who sold himself as a non politician.

I'd be curious to see what the question was. There's a difference IMO between people believing that Trump Jr. met with a Russian citizen versus "Russia" or an agent of Russia. Do we know if those Russians in the meeting were agents speaking on behalf of the Putin?

 

Realistically speaking, with the way Russia operates you don't get people holding meetings like this without approval and knowledge, but that it a fair point regarding question phrasing

Tillerson shutting down war crimes department and considering shutting down cyber security department at State

 

https://t.co/z67tHbNPhM

 

lol, I like how I said "the Putin."

 

But yeah, I mean 20% of Trump supporters aren't going to believe any news, so that doesn't surprise me. But I find it hard to believe that such a high percent don't believe something directly admitted by Trump Jr. There's gotta be some confusion on the question or what they mean by "Russia."

 

 

lol, I like how I said "the Putin."

 

But yeah, I mean 20% of Trump supporters aren't going to believe any news, so that doesn't surprise me. But I find it hard to believe that such a high percent don't believe something directly admitted by Trump Jr. There's gotta be some confusion on the question or what they mean by "Russia."

 

Based on the rest of the polling data I'm going to go with straight up reality denial. Thinking on it a bit more, the emails themselves show that the Russians were claiming to represent government efforts to aid Trump, so either way we still have Jr admitting to it.

 

77% of Trump voters think he should stay in office even if collusion is proven, and a plurality at 45% think Russia wanted Clinton to win vs 26% for Trump.

 

They just live in a different reality and have information sources that deliberately lie and misinform in everything.

Edited July 18, 20178 yr by StrangeSox

Eighth person identified from Trump Jr meeting, a Russian real estate developer who's been contacted by Mueller's team.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/eig...5e83_story.html

 

I don't think kushner's security clearance form has been updated to include all of these people he forgot about yet

Watch Hannity for 10 minutes and you'll see why those people dont believe anything.

Watch Hannity for 10 minutes and you'll see why those people dont believe anything.

 

Pass. The guy is a talking head, not a journalist.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/...975772083380226

 

Trump's old tweets are an absolute gold mine.

All his tweets are fun. He makes a big play about repeal, and then hours later, it's as I have always said just let Obamacare fail.

 

Uh, that's not always. But a lot of people buy him and his foreign made products.