November 28, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 24, 2017 -> 10:54 AM) Jeff Passan is giving up his vote because of the Joe Morgan letter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/...-144738128.html Wow, what a great article!
November 28, 20178 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) Wow, what a great article! I think he should say what he wants to say, but keep voting for anyone he wants on the ballot. It’s not like Joe Morgan is going to sway anyone’s opinion.
November 30, 20178 yr A good piece on Edgar MArtinez: http://amp.si.com/mlb/2017/11/28/edgar-mar...all-fame-ballot A good piece on Billy Wagner: https://www.si.com/mlb/2016/12/19/jaws-2017...ot-billy-wagner
December 2, 20178 yr 15 ballots public. The first 7 had Vizquel. The last 8 did not. That's a good thing. https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs It would be pretty funny if the voters put Bonds and Clemens in this year.
December 3, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 24, 2017 -> 12:54 PM) Jeff Passan is giving up his vote because of the Joe Morgan letter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/...-144738128.html Joe Morgan is probably one of the 10 greatest players in my lifetime . I heard Harry Caray slam him and say that Ryne Sandberg was a better player. Joe Morgan may be a jerk in some respects, but this is not one of them. He was about the size of the average 8th grader but he did it without the juice. Sammy Sosa would have been just a good player without it. I know just how Joe Morgan feels. I wonder how Barry Bonds would be regarded if he would have fought the urge. He might have gone down in history as one of the best 2-3 players ever instead of a jerk with a huge noggin. I hate to change the subject, but how do you think Joe Morgan felt when a really good player like Pete Rose got the MVP while playing left field When he was playing a gold glove 2nd base and doubling him up in WAR?. That's why Donald Trump types win elections sometimes.
December 3, 20178 yr The Winter Meetings begin a week from now with the announcement of the Modern Baseball Era voting results. https://baseballhall.org/modern-baseball-era-ballot-2018 Quite a few of these guys I'd have no problem getting in, but I'm partial to Dale Murphy and Alan Trammell.
December 7, 20178 yr Cleveland writer only votes for Thome and Vizquel a year after turning in a blank ballot. http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index....fame_ballo.html
December 10, 20178 yr Jack Morris and Alan Trammell elected to the Hall. It’s going to be a long, long ceremony in Cooperstown.
December 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 05:53 PM) Jack Morris and Alan Trammell elected to the Hall. It’s going to be a long, long ceremony in Cooperstown. Meh, Jack Morris shouldn't be in
December 11, 20178 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 06:53 PM) Jack Morris and Alan Trammell elected to the Hall. It’s going to be a long, long ceremony in Cooperstown. Might as well let Tommy John in as well.
December 16, 20178 yr https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F...AAAsz3uDsmqy_Vw 52 ballots public Thome - 98.1 C Jones - 96.2 Guerrero - 92.5 Martinez- 83.0 Hoffman - 81.1 Clemens - 75.5 -------------- Bonds - 73.6 Mussina - 73.6 Schilling - 69.8 Edited December 16, 20178 yr by flavum
December 17, 20178 yr Author QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 16, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F...AAAsz3uDsmqy_Vw 52 ballots public Thome - 98.1 C Jones - 96.2 Guerrero - 92.5 Martinez- 83.0 Hoffman - 81.1 Clemens - 75.5 -------------- Bonds - 73.6 Mussina - 73.6 Schilling - 69.8 Everyone from Clemens down is out. The last of the ballots are always the ones who leave off a ton of players.
December 17, 20178 yr Pleasantly surprised to see Thome getting near-universal support. I imagine he'll wind up in the low 80s range like Frank. Weirded out that someone didn't vote for Chipper. Character clause?
December 23, 20178 yr https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F...AAAsz3uDsmqy_Vw 95 ballots counted C Jones - 97.9 Thome - 96.8 Guerrero - 93.7 Martinez - 83.2 Hoffman - 80.0 ----------- Mussina - 72.6 Clemens - 70.5 Bonds - 69.5 Schilling - 69.5 https://twitter.com/iananywhere/status/944675451909185536 Looks like Johan Santana just got his first vote out of 96. With a week left to get the ballots in, I'm sure we'll see a lot of strategic voting, which to me, is a major flaw in the whole process. Edited December 23, 20178 yr by flavum
December 23, 20178 yr QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Pleasantly surprised to see Thome getting near-universal support. I imagine he'll wind up in the low 80s range like Frank. Weirded out that someone didn't vote for Chipper. Character clause? There are still a few grumpy old men left who refuse to vote anyone in on their first ballot, even Junior was left off 3 ballots. As they start cleaning out the voter roll, we should have a unanimous guy sometime in the near future.
December 23, 20178 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 23, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F...AAAsz3uDsmqy_Vw 95 ballots counted C Jones - 97.9 Thome - 96.8 Guerrero - 93.7 Martinez - 83.2 Hoffman - 80.0 ----------- Mussina - 72.6 Clemens - 70.5 Bonds - 69.5 Schilling - 69.5 https://twitter.com/iananywhere/status/944675451909185536 Looks like Johan Santana just got his first vote out of 96. With a week left to get the ballots in, I'm sure we'll see a lot of strategic voting, which to me, is a major flaw in the whole process. There's something wrong with Hoffman getting in so easily while Billy Wagner doesn't stand a chance.
December 24, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 23, 2017 -> 05:50 PM) There are still a few grumpy old men left who refuse to vote anyone in on their first ballot, even Junior was left off 3 ballots. As they start cleaning out the voter roll, we should have a unanimous guy sometime in the near future. I strongly believe it'll be Jeter when he's eligible.
December 24, 20178 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 23, 2017 -> 07:17 PM) I strongly believe it'll be Jeter when he's eligible. Very possible, but his Marlins ownership may ruin that chance quickly
December 24, 20178 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 23, 2017 -> 07:17 PM) I strongly believe it'll be Jeter when he's eligible. 0 chance that'll happen. Griffey is probably the best player ever. I'm probably in the minority, but I thought Jeter was vastly overrated, especially defensively.
December 25, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 23, 2017 -> 08:19 PM) Very possible, but his Marlins ownership may ruin that chance quickly Very true. The dude literally had the media, fans, etc by the balls at one point. Thought he would've been the first because of that (even if there were/are more deserving players) plus he was a Yankee. This ownership ordeal might just cost him that though. Still a first ballot through and through though.
December 25, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 23, 2017 -> 06:55 PM) There's something wrong with Hoffman getting in so easily while Billy Wagner doesn't stand a chance. There's also something wrong with him getting in super quickly while it's taking a long time for Schilling and Mussina who were substantially better pitchers and way more deserving. With that said I hope Hoffman gets in this year just so his votes can go to guys who are way more deserving than he is since he will get in eventually anyways.
December 25, 20178 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2017 -> 05:06 PM) The Winter Meetings begin a week from now with the announcement of the Modern Baseball Era voting results. https://baseballhall.org/modern-baseball-era-ballot-2018 Quite a few of these guys I'd have no problem getting in, but I'm partial to Dale Murphy and Alan Trammell. I think murphy was a great player at his peak, but I'm not sure he was productive Long enough to get in. kind of reminds me of dick allen's career. elite numbers but 2-3 years short of some other guys.
January 3, 20188 yr 158 ballots (about 37%) C Jones - 98.7 Thome 94.3 Guerrero 93.7 Martinez 80.4 Hoffman 78.5 --- Mussina 73.4 Bonds 70.3 Clemens 70.3 Schilling 67.1 Walker 40.5 Edgar Martinez is getting a nice bump up this year. Could be 7 going in this summer.
January 22, 20188 yr https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/955299343895969792 Looks like Edgar is a borderline call this year. He'll get in next year if not Wednesday. It'll be interesting to see if Johan Santana and Andruw Jones fall off the ballot, which I have no problem with.
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