January 11, 20197 yr Just now, SouthWallace said: Nats are pretty close to the tax line after their additions, correct? this would be important to know!
January 11, 20197 yr The Nationals are the wild card in all this. If they're not serious about Harper, he'll go the Philly which opens up the door for Machado to come to the Sox. That's how I see it as of now.
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, soxfan49 said: Money? And lots of it. Realistically, I can't see the Nats being willing to take the $50ish million worth of cost on to sign Harper when you add the consideration of where they are in terms of the luxury tax. It isn't just $35 million, it is ANOTHER 50% on top of that annually, with no real hope of getting under the tax anytime soon if they stay relatively competitive. They have $100 million in promised dollars out there through 2021.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: The Nationals are the wild card in all this. If they're not serious about Harper, he'll go the Philly which opens up the door for Machado to come to the Sox. That's how I see it as of now. People will be shocked I say this, but way too many people discounting the Cubs and Dodgers for Bryce.
January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, chitown87 said: I can't see the Phillies signing both when they are considered the possible favorite to land Trout next year or whenever he becomes a FA. Would you wait on the chance at him in a year, or take the superstar in front of you now?
January 11, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: I don't think so. Their payroll was also pretty low coming into the off-season. Not as low as the Sox but still. The Segura-Santana deal was basically a wash. he is talking Nationals not the Phillies
January 11, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Nats are pretty close to the tax line after their additions, correct? Last I saw, within $5 million BEFORE Harper.
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, fathom said: People will be shocked I say this, but way too many people discounting the Cubs and Dodgers for Bryce. He can wait as long as he wants for them to move money but it doesn't mean it will eventually happen.
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, fathom said: People will be shocked I say this, but way too many people discounting the Cubs and Dodgers for Bryce. Cubs are no players until they move contracts... Which they aren't
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: he is talking Nationals not the Phillies Oh shit my bad. Comment deleted for being a dumb ass. Edited January 11, 20197 yr by soxfan2014
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, centerfieldsixers said: unless the nationals go in on Machado No room for him.. Rendon and Turner. Robles in Center already so you can'tove Turner back there Edited January 11, 20197 yr by cjgalloway
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: No room for him.. Rendon and Turner. Robles in Center already so you can'tove Turner back there Didn't seem to prevent them from making a contract extension offer to Harper though.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: Didn't seem to prevent them from making a contract extension offer to Harper though. Harper doesn't play SS or 3B. LOL
January 11, 20197 yr 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Last I saw, within $5 million BEFORE Harper. Baseball Reference has them at $191M, and thats w/o the Dozier addition.
January 11, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Harper doesn't play SS or 3B. LOL Well, I would think the assumption would be Turner goes to OF if they signed Machado so it's relevant if you thought of it as a hypothetical scenario. But yeah, Nats are not signing Machado. Edited January 11, 20197 yr by soxfan2014
January 11, 20197 yr 9 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Nats are pretty close to the tax line after their additions, correct? Their ownership won't care about the luxury tax where Harper is concerned.
January 11, 20197 yr 8 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: The Nationals are the wild card in all this. If they're not serious about Harper, he'll go the Philly which opens up the door for Machado to come to the Sox. That's how I see it as of now. Harper back to the Nationals makes sense, but the Nationals are now over $200 million in payroll BEFORE potentially signing Harper. Signing him would easily push them into the luxury tax, and leave them with zero flexibility moving forward.
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, SouthWallace said: Baseball Reference has them at $191M, and thats w/o the Dozier addition. Don't forget there's a few other details - for the luxury tax you average the total over the years in the contract, it's not the price per year, and each team has $14.4 million in benefits that they are required to include in the tax total. The Nats are very close to the line right now.
January 11, 20197 yr Just now, soxfan2014 said: Well, I would think the assumption would be Turner goes to OF if they signed Machado so it's relevant if you thought of it as a hypothetical. lol
January 11, 20197 yr 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: lol I agree though hes not going there and I didnt bring it up originally. Just saying that its a scenario where they can shift guys around and Turner was already successful out there. Edited January 11, 20197 yr by soxfan2014
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