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Bring on another top 5 pick please

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I expect plenty more games like this over the course of the season. At least the offense could be fun!

1 minute ago, JoshPR said:

Coop insists on the Damn slider/cutter. Coop needs to go. Sox need a different vision. Coop did nice things. But His time is up....

You have no arguments from me whatsoever. 

1 minute ago, Bigsoxhurt35 said:

Bring on another top 5 pick please

Yup yup.

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

You mean the guy who spent $310 M on Darvish and Heyward? 

Don't forget Chatwood

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Why didnt he bring the bullpen in later!!!!

That is one excuse for leaving Lopez in. Not a whole lot behind him.

Just now, BackDoorBreach said:

Don't forget Chatwood

Him too. 

You can criticize Coop if you want to, but it'd be weird to claim that he's old school because he's pushing pitchers from curveballs to sliders when that's exactly what the new thinking in baseball is

Should have traded Jace. Bullpen sucks 

1 minute ago, DirtySox said:

Yup yup.

I want as many top 5 picks as possible since this fraudulent franchise won’t sign a superstar 

Ricky is always a hitter too late

1 minute ago, Jake said:

You can criticize Coop if you want to, but it'd be weird to claim that he's old school because he's pushing pitchers from curveballs to sliders when that's exactly what the new thinking in baseball is

We criticize him for being old school because he teaches pitchers to a)  sacrifice velocity for control and b) throw sinkers. Both of those are bad in today's game. 

I don't understand messing with a guy with a ++ curveball. Giolito, with his current fastball and a curve is exactly what you want in today's pitcher. He has a 95 mph fastball that hitters have trouble picking up. Low fastballs get kilt, and sinkers/2 seamers have the highest BAA in aggregate of any pitch from 2016-present. 

Edited by Jack Parkman

Good news is the Mariners pen sucks too.

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

His slider was significantly better on the Nats. He looks like a totally different pitcher, in a bad way, from his Nats days.

Yes, his 5 ERA while walking more per nine, and giving up more than a hit an inning looked much better than last year - especially the last two months, in which he was very good. 

No chance. It's been two starts this year. Relax.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Should have traded Jace. Bullpen sucks 

Yep. Should have sold high on him last year ala Tommy Kahnle. Fry is gonna be out of baseball once the the 3 batter minimum reliever rule takes effect. 

Edited by OneDog847

Just now, OneDog847 said:

Yep. Should have sold him last year ala Tommy Kahnle. Fry is gonna be out of baseball once the the 3 batter minimum reliever rule takes effect. 

Thats a stupid rule, hope it doesnt take effect.

9 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

He didn't have a slider. He only threw a curveball. The weird thing is both Giolito and Lopez have both picked up a slider and completely lost their curveballs since joining the Sox. I really don't know why they taught Giolito a slider because he didn't need it. His curve was always ++ before he got here. 

It sure looked like a slider in his big strikeout game against the Braves

They brought in a RHP to face Alonso? ?

1 minute ago, fathom said:

It sure looked like a slider in his big strikeout game against the Braves

A hard curveball with short break looks like a slider. It doesn't mean it isn't a curveball though. 

Edited by Jack Parkman

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Yes, his 5 ERA while walking more per nine, and giving up more than a hit an inning looked much better than last year - especially the last two months, in which he was very good. 

No chance. It's been two starts this year. Relax.

Wasn’t he one of the worst pitchers in baseball in terms of metrics for almost all the year?

Dumpster fire Rondon dp and lollygags to first...

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Wasn’t he one of the worst pitchers in baseball in terms of metrics for almost all the year?

Yes. He was right there with Giolito amongst the bottom 5 qualified pitchers in FIP and xFIP. 

Last year in xFIP: 

Giolito: 5.46

Lopez: 5.22.

They were the two worst in baseball in that regard. 

Edited by Jack Parkman

Mendick time!

 

Just now, fathom said:

Wasn’t he one of the worst pitchers in baseball in terms of metrics for almost all the year?

What metrics would those be? Some metrics made it look for much of the year like his ERA may have overstated his success, but they wouldn't have led to the conclusion that he was pitching badly

Guess Sox are done scoring today

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