1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

I really don't want to be that guy but....

We should probably expect some sort of adjustment period for Robert and Madrigal as well. 

Robert has many of the same holes Eloy does at the plate. Struggles with velocity up and in and chases any and all sliders.  Madrigal shouldn’t have a big adjustment.

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

I really don't want to be that guy but....

We should probably expect some sort of adjustment period for Robert and Madrigal as well. 

I think that goes without saying, just a little puzzling how well both of Cease and Eloy finished last year we thought they'd come up and succeed fairly quickly. Baseball is hard

Just now, fathom said:

Robert has many of the same holes Eloy does at the plate. Struggles with velocity up and in and chases any and all sliders.  Madrigal shouldn’t have a big adjustment.

Robert acclimating to MLB is still a huge upgrade over Engel at his best.

Just now, TheTruth05 said:

I think that goes without saying, just a little puzzling how well both of Cease and Eloy finished last year we thought they'd come up and succeed fairly quickly. Baseball is hard

It’s been apparent since May that Cease would struggle with his command in the majors.

4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I really don't want to be that guy but....

We should probably expect some sort of adjustment period for Robert and Madrigal as well. 

Every player gets that slack. Doesn't matter the team.

My problem with Cease is that his AAA season wasn't exactly great either.  He's going to have to prove he belongs next year, because Kopech will probably be up in May and Dunning could push him too.  And of course, Rodon later on. 

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High fastball and Eloy pounds it into the ground. I’m thrilled the organization is considering fixing his stance/swing, as he reminds me so much of Avi his first few years.

Just curious. Cease got some experience this year. Should we just send him back down to work on some things. Let him pitch two more weeks in AAA then shut him down?

I don't really care either way and am still high on him.

Good god, this is pathetic

Yikes.

Wow

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

It’s been apparent since May that Cease would struggle with his command in the majors.

Fathom deserves credit for saying that all year. He has noticed.

Get him out of there. I truly believe that injuries and underperformance forced Cease to the Majors this year. It's pretty clear that he's not ready. 

Odds that Cease gets shut down after this start? This is Very reminiscent of Kopech’s last start

Their entire team is on roids and you can’t convince me otherwise. This is comical 

Never Cease to amaze me 

Is this finally the Twins' year? WS champs?

Cease has had good outings tainted by awful innings.

This is the worst I've seen him at any point all season by a wide margin. He needs to sit. 

Just now, strike27 said:

Their entire team is on roids and you can’t convince me otherwise. This is comical 

I approve of this sentiment. 

1 minute ago, greg775 said:

Is this finally the Twins' year? WS champs?

Yankees are their kryptonite. They probably can't get past Houston either

Sox are so far behind the Twins in terms of talent and coaching, it’s not even funny.

Just now, fathom said:

Sox are so far behind the Twins in terms of talent and coaching, it’s not even funny.

Revisit this statement next June. 

Cease threw far too many sliders today. Not a good idea when it’s his 3rd best pitch.

Just now, fathom said:

Cease threw far too many sliders today. Not a good idea when it’s his 3rd best pitch.

It has a better pitch value than his curveball? 

11 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I really don't want to be that guy but....

We should probably expect some sort of adjustment period for Robert and Madrigal as well. 

God forbid that one of our rookies should hit the ground running like the countless times we've seen it done by players on other teams.

6 minutes ago, Orlando said:

Odds that Cease gets shut down after this start? This is Very reminiscent of Kopech’s last start

Exactly what I was thinking.