February 22, 20206 yr This is a “why not” moment for me. Cost is low and we get an extra year. Ideally the Rutherfords, Adolfo’s of this world over take him and its a small sunk cost. Worst case is he gets 400 at bats and we didn’t pay a lot for it. When those are your options you don’t have a lot to lose.
February 22, 20206 yr Author Basically all this does is add a $250k buyout on his already agreed upon 1/$3.25M. Honestly not really even sure why Leury would agree to this, but it’s good for the Sox. Leury is a great bench piece that can fill in for longer stretches if needed. He’ll be useful to have around again in 2021.
February 22, 20206 yr 21 minutes ago, Colinski said: This is a “why not” moment for me. Cost is low and we get an extra year. Ideally the Rutherfords, Adolfo’s of this world over take him and its a small sunk cost. Worst case is he gets 400 at bats and we didn’t pay a lot for it. When those are your options you don’t have a lot to lose. What does a bench player being able to play everywhere have to do with Adolfo or Rutherford?
February 22, 20206 yr I think in a perfect world Leury is our 4th outfielder and infielder cover. If one of the above push him to 5th outfield or infield cover only he loses at bats.
February 22, 20206 yr Anyone else looking for an extension? Rick Hahn will be in his office until 3:00 today. After hours, please leave message.
February 22, 20206 yr 6 minutes ago, wegner said: Anyone else looking for an extension? Rick Hahn will be in his office until 3:00 today. After hours, please leave message. Yoan Moncada and Lucas Giolito would like a word Edited February 22, 20206 yr by ScooterMcGee
February 22, 20206 yr Just now, soxfan2014 said: What does a bench player being able to play everywhere have to do with Adolfo or Rutherford? I read here that Leury is our RF which is not my preference.
February 22, 20206 yr Author 12 minutes ago, pcq said: I read here that Leury is our RF which is not my preference. He is the weak side platoon RF. Slightly different.
February 22, 20206 yr 20 minutes ago, pcq said: I read here that Leury is our RF which is not my preference. For this year, he might be part of a platoon at most.
February 22, 20206 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: He is the weak side platoon RF. Slightly different. Just my opinion that he is a decent Swiss bench tool. He was qualified to start for the 2018-2019 squads.
February 23, 20206 yr 5 hours ago, ScooterMcGee said: Yoan Moncada and Lucas Giolito would like a word I'm starting to think that next winter is when those guys sign their extensions. Both sides maximize certainty at that point. I think both guys want to re-sign but they're in no hurry to get their money right now because they believe in themselves. Edited February 23, 20206 yr by Jack Parkman
February 23, 20206 yr 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm starting to think that next winter is when those guys sign their extensions. Both sides maximize certainty at that point. I think both guys want to re-sign but they're in no hurry to get their money right now because they believe in themselves. As they should
February 23, 20206 yr Leury's value is as a utility player for defense. With him, you only need 1 on the roster, not 2. He's still making less than they gave Jay last season......
February 24, 20206 yr On 2/22/2020 at 4:10 PM, Jack Parkman said: I'm starting to think that next winter is when those guys sign their extensions. Both sides maximize certainty at that point. I think both guys want to re-sign but they're in no hurry to get their money right now because they believe in themselves. If you look in the spring training thread Not Steve Cishek is saying a Moncada extension is coming soon.
February 24, 20206 yr On 2/22/2020 at 12:45 PM, Moan4Yoan said: Eh, Holt got similar money. kinda mirrors my thoughts. Leury is fine. he has about that vlue on the team, but at the same time almost every year you can bargain hunt for $3.5mm and get a similar player. I like Leury and think he's worth about this, so don't really care either way - but kind of like hte Abreu move -- not sure it was necessary to extend someone for no reason. Both of their values would only go down this year, not up.
February 24, 20206 yr Author 3 hours ago, BrianAnderson said: kinda mirrors my thoughts. Leury is fine. he has about that vlue on the team, but at the same time almost every year you can bargain hunt for $3.5mm and get a similar player. I like Leury and think he's worth about this, so don't really care either way - but kind of like hte Abreu move -- not sure it was necessary to extend someone for no reason. Both of their values would only go down this year, not up. First off, they didn't extend Leury. He was already under control for 2020 for $3.25M. They added a $3.5M CLUB OPTION for 2021, with a $250k buyout. And this is legitimately nothing like the Abreu move which was and remains a significant overpay.
February 24, 20206 yr is the buyout at the end of this year or next? didn't pay much attention but thought it was this year ... which would be dumb - basically guaranteeing more money for no reason. And i stand by my comments - they are on a different scale, but neither did you have to even give an option or extension to. We've seen the best years from both guys, if anything Leury would be cheaper on the free market than $3.5mm next year. He's not going to improve his stock.
February 24, 20206 yr 2 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: is the buyout at the end of this year or next? didn't pay much attention but thought it was this year ... which would be dumb - basically guaranteeing more money for no reason. And i stand by my comments - they are on a different scale, but neither did you have to even give an option or extension to. We've seen the best years from both guys, if anything Leury would be cheaper on the free market than $3.5mm next year. He's not going to improve his stock. Next year. Basically they said if the team wants him back they get him back at $3.5, but in exchange for him giving that up they gave him $250k.
February 24, 20206 yr 10 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: is the buyout at the end of this year or next? didn't pay much attention but thought it was this year ... which would be dumb - basically guaranteeing more money for no reason. And i stand by my comments - they are on a different scale, but neither did you have to even give an option or extension to. We've seen the best years from both guys, if anything Leury would be cheaper on the free market than $3.5mm next year. He's not going to improve his stock. You're complaining about 250 fucking k? Edited February 24, 20206 yr by soxfan2014
February 24, 20206 yr 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: You're complaining about 250 fucking k? yikes. aggressive. so angry. not about the money at all. it's about why would lock yourself in. guys like leury are a dime a dozen and cost the same or less. no reason to give a buyout or agree on a price for next year. Look at Scooter Gennett for example - what's his price? Who would you rather have - him or Leury? How about Brock Holt or Leury? Nothing to do with money, why give up flexibility for a guy like Leury .... it's just unnecessary move. That's why it like the Abreu move on a different scale - Abreu isn't going to get more valuable, just less valuable. So extending him was unnecessary - just play it year to year and pay market value and/or see what else the market has to offer at the price.
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