Im glad the police didnt use overwhelming force. That should always be the default approach.

Anyone who went inside should he arrested on the spot though. You cant just let them walk away. That problem didnt start today, youve seen it before when Republicans act out in places like Michigan or even members of congress storming into meetings and are given a pass.

Every person who stepped into Congress needs to be charged at the federal level. That is the minimum response.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

Everyone ripping the police in this thread should fucking apologize.  I’m sure there were some officers that did nothing, but look at what these poor fucks had to deal with.  Again, focus on the issue at hand which is the attack on democracy that our douchebag President encouraged.

Im glad that we didn't witness police using violence. 

1 minute ago, Soxbadger said:

Im glad that we didn't witness police using violence. 

Well that one women was shot to death. I agree especially when they got in the capitol they just needed to evacuate and regroup. But the planning was the issue, no reason to be caught that unaware. If they were that spread thin they should have focused on a smaller perimeter.

 

Cops normally don’t stand in the background like that when their brethren are in the midst of an altercation with a mob. This video just illustrates my point Three cops standing in front of a fence while ten stand behind them doing nothing isn’t how it usually works

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

Well that one women was shot to death. I agree especially when they got in the capitol they just needed to evacuate and regroup. But the planning was the issue, no reason to be caught that unaware. If they were that spread thin they should have focused on a smaller perimeter.

Unless it was deliberate. 

Does not have to be all of them. Just had to be the people giving orders. 

Just now, Vulture said:

Cops normally don’t stand in the background like that when their brethren are in the midst of an altercation with a mob. This video just illustrates my point Three cops standing in front of a fence while ten stand behind them doing nothing isn’t how it usually works

The idea that the President made this happen to scare Congress into not certifying wouldn't be the craziest thing he's done during his administration.

6 minutes ago, Soxbadger said:

Im glad the police didnt use overwhelming force. That should always be the default approach.

Anyone who went inside should he arrested on the spot though. You cant just let them walk away. That problem didnt start today, youve seen it before when Republicans act out in places like Michigan or even members of congress storming into meetings and are given a pass.

Every person who stepped into Congress needs to be charged at the federal level. That is the minimum response.

Agreed. 

@Chicago White Sox

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Cops are amongst the most brazen of Trump's enablers. 

They are not here to serve and protect, but rather enforce the racial and class divide. 

2 minutes ago, Vulture said:

Cops normally don’t stand in the background like that when their brethren are in the midst of an altercation with a mob. This video just illustrates my point Three cops standing in front of a fence while ten stand behind them doing nothing isn’t how it usually works

A bunch of them ran up, but not sure if you noticed they were outnumbered like 50 to 1.  Some of them tried, but at least in that video they had no chance to stop those protestors.

Back the Blue yall.

 

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

A bunch of them ran up, but not sure if you noticed they were outnumbered like 50 to 1.  Some of them tried, but at least in that video they had no chance to stop those protestors.

There's no reason for them to be outnumbered like that unless they were complicit and used it as a built in excuse. 

Police do not protect us from fascists. They ARE the fascists. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/06/us-capitol-attack-compared-response-black-lives-matter-protests/6570528002/

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13 minutes ago, Soxbadger said:

Im glad the police didnt use overwhelming force. That should always be the default approach.

Anyone who went inside should he arrested on the spot though. You cant just let them walk away. That problem didnt start today, youve seen it before when Republicans act out in places like Michigan or even members of congress storming into meetings and are given a pass.

Every person who stepped into Congress needs to be charged at the federal level. That is the minimum response.

That doesn’t even make any sense. Police use overwhelming force on a protest in the street yet do nothing when the US Capitol building is being stormed in attempt to disrupt the transfer of power?? That’s the one instance when overwhelming force should have been employed

9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Unless it was deliberate. 

Does not have to be all of them. Just had to be the people giving orders. 

This guy almost predicted this 3 weeks ago.

 

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

A bunch of them ran up, but not sure if you noticed they were outnumbered like 50 to 1.  Some of them tried, but at least in that video they had no chance to stop those protestors.

Don’t you find it a bit odd they were outnumbered fifty to one in the first place?? They were only outnumbered to that degree because the rest of the force was not employed despite the fact people from the president down had been threatening to mob the capitol for two months now

1 minute ago, Vulture said:

That doesn’t even make any sense. Police use overwhelming force on a protest in the street yet do nothing when the US Capitol building is being stormed in attempt to disrupt the transfer of power?? That’s the one instance when overwhelming force should have been employed

You're correct about the hypocrisy. You're incorrect about using force. All they had to do was get enough of the DCPD there to help and the entire situation could have been avoided. 

They were all there when the BLM protesters were there, but when Vanilla ISIS shows up, "we were overwhelmed!" Excuses, excuses. 

1 minute ago, Vulture said:

Don’t you find it a bit odd they were outnumbered fifty to one in the first place?? They were only outnumbered to that degree because the rest of the force was not employed despite the fact people from the president down had been threatening to mob the capitol for two months now

For real, the lack of preparation needs to be looked into. At the very least, someone in the chain of command should lose their job.

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Agreed. 

@Chicago White Sox

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Cops are amongst the most brazen of Trump's enablers. 

They are not here to serve and protect, but rather enforce the racial and class divide. 

JFC...stop using fucking stereotypes.  Not all cops are evil Trump supporting, minority murdering maniacs.  Some are legit bad, many may even support Trump, but there are also many goods one (some who don’t support Trump!!).  I’d love to see your ass getting trapped under a fence and beaten by these pro Trumps goons and then being ripped online by a keyboard warrior for “not doing enough” all while be accused of being a Trump supporter.  We literally had attack on democracy and you feel compelled to blanket rip all police officers with this stupid rhetoric.

8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Back the Blue yall.

 

Just part of the staging!

33 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Seriously.  Can we stop making dumb generalizations about the police and focus on the douchebag who’s responsible for today’s attack on democracy and the Congressmen who enabled him?

What about the police that enabled the attack on democracy? This could have been nipped in the bud but it wasn't, and that was a deliberate choice. 

There's no way in hell what happened today is possible without the cooperation of Police. None. 

If the Police were doing their jobs, then nobody ever gets in the capitol. 

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

JFC...stop using fucking stereotypes.  Not all cops are evil Trump supporting, minority murdering maniacs.  Some are legit bad, many may even support Trump, but there are also many goods one (some who don’t support Trump!!).  I’d love to see your ass getting trapped under a fence and beaten by these pro Trumps goons and then being ripped online by a keyboard warrior for “not doing enough” all while be accused of being a Trump supporter.  We literally had attack on democracy and you feel compelled to blanket rip all police officers with this stupid rhetoric.

Because I feel that they enable the attack on democracy. They're complicit. 

Edited January 7, 20215 yr by Jack Parkman

This is what it normally looks like:

7 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

You're correct about the hypocrisy. You're incorrect about using force. All they had to do was get enough of the DCPD there to help and the entire situation could have been avoided. 

They were all there when the BLM protesters were there, but when Vanilla ISIS shows up, "we were overwhelmed!" Excuses, excuses. 

Yeah I agree.

Edited January 7, 20215 yr by Vulture

7 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

There's no reason for them to be outnumbered like that unless they were complicit and used it as a built in excuse. 

Police do not protect us from fascists. They ARE the fascists. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/06/us-capitol-attack-compared-response-black-lives-matter-protests/6570528002/

Yup, these low ranking police officers who were positioned at the security perimeters somehow themselves arranged for not enough security to be in place.  How can you even type this garbage?

2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Because I feel that they enable the attack on democracy. They're complicit. 

What in the fuck are you talking about?  Many of these guys got their asses beat defending democracy while you ripping them for being “complicit”.  You’re a complete joke bro.

Edited January 7, 20215 yr by Chicago White Sox

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

What in the fuck are you talking about?

There's no way these people get into the capitol at all without police cooperation.