8 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

leury!

Looking much better than Sosa so far tonight.

5 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I mean what pitcher wouldn't be pissed? That's a fairly routine catch for a ML outfielder and Eloy didn't even come close. 

Lucas got screwed that inning by the umpire and Eloy. 

If you don’t like the defense strike someone out then.  He should’ve called it but the guy hit it 370 feet the opposite way so he wasn’t exactly fooled

1 minute ago, chw42 said:

We've probably had more SAC flies today than we've had in the past month. 

Someone might actually hit a home run tonight. 

Just now, Ozzie’s Cuban Cigar said:

If you don’t like the defense strike someone out then.  He should’ve called it but the guy hit it 370 feet the opposite way so he wasn’t exactly fooled

Pitch was right down the plate 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Pitch was right down the plate 

Greene actually missed it. That ball should have been hit 450 feet. 

this is just not a good pitcher.  Keeps getting ahead and then missing too much.  Really wish they’d ditch the slider for the curve 

Detroit has given Lucas trouble cause they straight up sit on his change up and just flick it into the OF in 2 strikes counts. 

Oh look, another awful slider 

Just now, fathom said:

this is just not a good pitcher.  Keeps getting ahead and then missing too much.  Really wish they’d ditch the slider for the curve 

Another hanging slider. 

I was looking at what the biggest difference between the last 3 years and this year for Giolito is. It's his fastball. He had a lot more carry on it the last 3 years vs this year. It makes everything else easier for hitters to read and react to. 

Just now, fathom said:

Oh look, another awful slider 

Can’t finish anyone off

Lucas just not getting it done this year 

Just now, fathom said:

this is just not a good pitcher.  Keeps getting ahead and then missing too much.  Really wish they’d ditch the slider for the curve 

I could be wrong but when Lucas was successful he was heavy fastall/change up. It seems to be fastball/slider this year. 

7 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

wow, some competent baseball and base running; this has actually been one of the more enjoyable half innings this year

Didn’t mind Super Joe sending Leury with 2 outs.  It forced the Tigers to make a play, and it worked for us.

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

I was looking at what the biggest difference between the last 3 years and this year for Giolito is. It's his fastball. He had a lot more carry on it the last 3 years vs this year. It makes everything else easier for hitters to read and react to. 

He really should be non-tendered and the money spent on a better pitcher, but we know they won’t do that.

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

I was looking at what the biggest difference between the last 3 years and this year for Giolito is. It's his fastball. He had a lot more carry on it the last 3 years vs this year. It makes everything else easier for hitters to read and react to. 

Lack of sticky stuff = less carry. If you don't have high velo like Lucas, late movement is the only way you can strike guys out on the pitch consistently. 

Just now, CBJ03 said:

I could be wrong but when Lucas was successful he was heavy fastall/change up. It seems to be fastball/slider this year. 

He was successful when he could use the sticky stuff 

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

this is just not a good pitcher.  Keeps getting ahead and then missing too much.  Really wish they’d ditch the slider for the curve 

He really blows

They really nibbled against that guy who hit a fastball right down the middle weakly to 3B...

3 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Detroit has given Lucas trouble cause they straight up sit on his change up and just flick it into the OF in 2 strikes counts. 

Adjust and not call for a change up with 2 strikes.

Lucas is a solid #5. 

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

He was successful when he could use the sticky stuff 

Giolito and Moncada are two guys I would never trust with a big contract. Eloy is in that group as well right now. 

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

He was successful when he could use the sticky stuff 

The combination of injuries and MLB changing the rules/balls has basically killed the Sox. 

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

Pitch was right down the plate 

Yes indeed was a cookie right down the middle with bases loaded.  I thought it was going to be a grand slam.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

He was successful when he could use the sticky stuff 

2020 vs 2022. Not saying that the sticky stuff wasnt a factor though.