Both these pitchers are making awful pitches 

3 minutes ago, chw42 said:

They really nibbled against that guy who hit a fastball right down the middle weakly to 3B...

That is why the Tigers are in last place, and normally outsuck the Sox.

Just now, fathom said:

Both these pitchers are making awful pitches 

Manning shut out the Rays for 7 innings the last time out and I'm not really seeing how with the way he's pitched today. 

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

He really should be non-tendered and the money spent on a better pitcher, but we know they won’t do that.

He should get another year to slim out that upper body muscle he added . You just can't non tender him after 3 decent years in a row then this year. Could he actually be non-tendered ? Doesn't he have enough years yet ?

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He should get another year to slim out that upper body muscle he added . You just can't non tender him after 3 decent years in a row then this year. Could he actually be non-tendered ? Doesn't he have enough years yet ?

No way he gets non tendered. 

Grandal's power just seems like it's gone...

Sox #6, Tigers #1 in ERA this month for MLB.

Now about those offenses?

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He should get another year to slim out that upper body muscle he added . You just can't non tender him after 3 decent years in a row then this year. Could he actually be non-tendered ? Doesn't he have enough years yet ?

Last year of arbitration coming up

Pull the ball in the air!

6 minutes ago, pcq said:

Lucas is a solid #5. 

This is generous.

Just now, fathom said:

Last year of arbitration coming up

Any chance he gets less than 10 million if his ERA is around 5?

Manning is hanging every curve ball he throws. 

4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

He should get another year to slim out that upper body muscle he added . You just can't non tender him after 3 decent years in a row then this year. Could he actually be non-tendered ? Doesn't he have enough years yet ?

Well that would just about guarantee he goes to Dodgers or Angels and finishes Top 5 Cy Young as a Dodger like Tyler Anderson will...

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12 minutes ago, CBJ03 said:

Someone might actually hit a home run tonight. 

We are going to need to hit at least a homer tonight to win.  Looks like will be a high scoring game tonight.  Resend the memo to not let Baez beat us at the plate.  He is the main homer threat.

Can’t believe the singles approach didn’t work with the slow part of the lineup 

 Biggest killer this year is lack of homers.

1 minute ago, RG23SoxFan said:

This is generous.

LOL too many people here eat their young. He's had an ERA under 3.50 , 3 years in a row then this year. Not great but certainly not terrible . Those 3 years are actually a very solid #3 guy.

14 of 18 hitters in this game after 3 innings 

Its bad when the only thing Lucas has going for him is the extension category. 

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

LOL too many people here eat their young. He's had an ERA under 3.50 , 3 years in a row then this year. Not great but certainly not terrible . Those 3 years are actually a very solid #3 guy.

And that was with sticky stuff allowed

1 minute ago, CBJ03 said:

Its bad when the only thing Lucas has going for him is the extension category. 

If it wasn't for that extension his fastball would be even worse. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

And that was with sticky stuff allowed

SO non tender him and don't give him a chance to be a solid #3 again ? That's giving him away.No way in hell the Sox do that.

9 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Manning shut out the Rays for 7 innings the last time out and I'm not really seeing how with the way he's pitched today. 

Name three Rays' hitters other than Arozarena.  Franco is out. Kiermaier is out.

like the same pitch ump called a ball that lead to the big inning... lol

Time for more runs boys !

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

SO non tender him and don't give him a chance to be a solid #3 again ? That's giving him away.No way in hell the Sox do that.

You're also not gonna get a pitcher with as much upside as him for $10 million. Sox just need to hope Lucas finds some sticky stuff again. Spin rates around the league are going up again. Guys are finding ways to use sticky stuff again.