3 hours ago, flavum said:

Twins about to clinch with their 82nd win

Sure, they are a one and done playoff team, but the Sox can't even get past these bastards, or anyone else.

Since the Blackout Game (2009-2023):

• American League Central Titles: 
  • 5 Minnesota (2009, 2010, 2019, 2020, 2023)
  • 4 Cleveland (2016, 2017, 2018, 2022)
  • 4 Detroit (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
  • 1 Chicago (2021)
  • 1 Kansas City (2015)
• Seasons over .500: 
  • 9 Cleveland (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022)
  • 7 Minnesota (2009, 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2023)
  • 6 Detroit (2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016)
  • 4 Chicago (2010, 2012, 2020, 2021)
  • 3 Kansas City (2013, 2014, 2015)
• Playoffs (World Series, American League Pennant)
  • 2 Kansas City (2015 World Series Championship, 2014 American League Pennant)
  • 1 Detroit (2012 American League Pennant) - Also made & lost two ALCS.
  • 1 Cleveland (2016 American League Pennant)
  • 0 Chicago & Minnesota

Complete American League Central History (1995-2023):

Detroit 1998 - Current; Milwaukee 1995 - 1997

 

• American League Central Titles: 
  • 11 Cleveland (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2007, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022)
  • 9 Minnesota (2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2019, 2020, 2023)
  • 4 Detroit (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
  • 4 Chicago (2000, 2005, 2008, 2021)
  • 1 Kansas City (2015)
• Seasons over .500: 
  • 18 Cleveland (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022)
  • 14 Minnesota (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2023)
  • 12 Chicago (1996. 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2020, 2021)
  • 8 Detroit (2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016)
  • 3 Kansas City (2013, 2014, 2015)
• Playoffs (World Series Championships & American League Pennant)
  • 3 Cleveland (1995, 1997 & 2016 American League Pennant) - Also lost two ALCS.
  • 2 Kansas City (2015 World Series Championship, 2014 American League Pennant)
  • 2 Detroit (2006 & 2012 American League Pennant) - Also lost two ALCS.
  • 1 Chicago (2005 World Series Championship)
  • 0 Minnesota - Lost one ALCS.

The Twins DFA'd Dylan Floro today. He was a 1:1 swap with the Marlins for Jorge López at the deadline.

The headliner of their trade to get Lopez at last year's deadline, Yennier Cano, has 70 IP with a 2.17 ERA/1.02 WHIP this year for Baltimore...where he has since been rejoined by the guy he was traded for.

The O's reclaimed Jorge López after he was waived by the Marlins at the beginning of the month. Talk about selling high/buying low.

3 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

The Twins DFA'd Dylan Floro today. He was a 1:1 swap with the Marlins for Jorge López at the deadline.

The headliner of their trade to get Lopez at last year's deadline, Yennier Cano, has 70 IP with a 2.17 ERA/1.02 WHIP this year for Baltimore...where he has since been rejoined by the guy he was traded for.

The O's reclaimed Jorge López after he was waived by the Marlins at the beginning of the month. Talk about selling high/buying low.

 

Yet another reason Kim Ng wasn't exactly a slam dunk White Sox GM candidate...simply due to her past Sox origins/connections.

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Yet another reason Kim Ng wasn't exactly a slam dunk White Sox GM candidate...simply due to her past Sox origins/connections.

Checks notes.

Kim Ng has Burger for five years controlled. 1/2 game out of the playoffs.

Chris Getz has Pedro Grifol for two years controlled. 26 games out of the playoffs.

41 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Checks notes.

Kim Ng has Burger for five years controlled. 1/2 game out of the playoffs.

Chris Getz has Pedro Grifol for two years controlled. 26 games out of the playoffs.

Check the post right ahead of mine.

Check Avisail Garcia and Jean Segura deals.

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Check the post right ahead of mine.

Check Avisail Garcia and Jean Segura deals.

Kim Ng's first offseason / season after George Costanza s%*# canned from the Marlins.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2023/04/derek-jeter-tried-to-run-mlb-team-like-george-costanza-from-seinfeld-former-exec-says.html

• 2023: Kim Ng's Marlins 81-75 $92.5M Payroll (23rd)
• 2023: A. J. Preller's Padres 78-80 $248.9M Payroll (3rd)
• 2023: Ken Hahn's White Sox 60-97 $181.1M Payroll (13th)

 

3 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Kim Ng's first offseason / season after George Costanza s%*# canned from the Marlins.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2023/04/derek-jeter-tried-to-run-mlb-team-like-george-costanza-from-seinfeld-former-exec-says.html

• 2023: Kim Ng's Marlins 81-75 $92.5M Payroll (23rd)
• 2023: A. J. Preller's Padres 78-80 $248.9M Payroll (3rd)
• 2023: Ken Hahn's White Sox 60-97 $181.1M Payroll (13th)

 

Why not the Mets?

Well, whether she could win with a $120 million payroll and KW doing a Hoyer Special like the Padres trading Burger/Rizzo to the Cubs for Cashner and then later taking a position with the team...we will see how that works out.   Or maybe KW was just trying to screw over or block Hahn?  We will probably never know.

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Why not the Mets?

Well, whether she could win with a $120 million payroll and KW doing a Hoyer Special like the Padres trading Burger/Rizzo to the Cubs for Cashner and then later taking a position with the team...we will see how that works out.   Or maybe KW was just trying to screw over or block Hahn?  We will probably never know.

Would have also listed the Mets if they didn’t hire Sterns. Another solid candidate never considered by Jerry, even for an interview to ask how successful franchises conduct business.

Beyond Himes who Jerry hated for building his best organization but not kissing enough Reinsdorf ass, Jerry only hires people who shoot the s%*# with him in the owners box (Hawk, Kenny, Hahn, Getz) or recommended by La Russa (Schueler). 

8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Check the post right ahead of mine.

Check Avisail Garcia and Jean Segura deals.

Minneosta got fleeced in this deal not Miami.  Minnesota gave the Orioles the good prospect.  Both ends of the trade this year were released.

6 hours ago, Harry Chappas said:

Minneosta got fleeced in this deal not Miami.  Minnesota gave the Orioles the good prospect.  Both ends of the trade this year were released.

Lol.

You're right. But Elias like Hahn will be AL Executive of the Year running away because of that roster filled with youth and more still coming in the pipeline.

11 hours ago, Harry Chappas said:

Minneosta got fleeced in this deal not Miami.  Minnesota gave the Orioles the good prospect.  Both ends of the trade this year were released.

Yeah, that's the point I was making.

Unfortunately, someone somewhere along the way happens to be tangentially related to the Sox, so "the Orioles fleeced the Twins for Jorge Lopez last year AND got him back for free to boot" got turned into another retread "White Sox bad" discussion.

Ng was just taking a flyer on getting a return for Floro who looked headed for a DFA either way.

There's a point to be made about Taylor having a vastly superior season to Benintendi and the Twins acquiring him on the cheap, but whatever. None of this stuff on the margins matters now anyway.

10 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:

There's a point to be made about Taylor having a vastly superior season to Benintendi and the Twins acquiring him on the cheap, but whatever. None of this stuff on the margins matters now anyway.

Or that both were on the Royals lol...

I love that Detroit passed Cleveland today and hope they win tomorrow to finish 2 games ahead in the final standings.

Also loved the late season push by the Royals. A couple more weeks may have allowed them to pass the White Sox in this dismal season.

Opening Day starter

 

1 hour ago, Quin said:

Opening Day starter

 

Wow...really in cost-cutting mode.   They're likely going to have to decide soon whether to put Bieber on the market, which would mean yet another option out there to Dylan Cease.

There will be a lot of interest in Quantrill as well if he is proven to be healthy.

 

 

In a bid to forestall another season of uncertainty on the local media front, the league on Wednesday asked a Houston bankruptcy court to deny Diamond Sports Group’s recent request for more time in which to hash out its overdue Chapter 11 restructuring plan.

In a pair of motions filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Texas, MLB and five of its clubs (the Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Guardians, Detroit Tigers, Milwaukee Brewers and Texas Rangers) objected to Diamond’s Sept. 29 request to push the deadline back another 60 days.

https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2023/mlb-demands-status-update-diamond-sports-rsns-1234741883/#!

Edited November 15, 20232 yr by caulfield12