JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: "Since June 13, the Mets are 36-53. That’s the fifth-worst record in baseball over that span, better only than a quartet of doormats: the Rockies, the Twins, the Nationals and the White Sox. The Mets have gone from NL East favorites to wild-card wanna-bes. A pitching rotation that wowed for much of April and May is the most guilty culprit." yahoo.com/sports Nope still bottom 4. Fitting Sox and Nats end up playing each other. That record (by the way) wipes out a lot of April through mid May veteran roster filler excuses. Well, they’re 18-31 since the trade deadline. That .367 win % just so happens to exactly match their .367 win % for the entire season. Different team, same results… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Most losses 3 consecutive years, all time MLB. 1.Mets 1962 to 1964 = 340 2. Astros 2011-2013 =324 3. White Sox 2023 to 2025 = 322* 4. Rockies 2023-25 = 319* Most losses 2 consecutive seasons, all time MLB 1. Mets 1962-1963 = 231 2. Philadelphia A's 1916-17 = 226 3. Orioles 2018-2019 = 223 4. White Sox 2023-24 = 222* * = Still in progress. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Most losses 3 consecutive years, all time MLB. 1.Mets 1962 to 1964 = 340 2. Astros 2011-2013 =324 3. White Sox 2023 to 2025 = 322* 4. Rockies 2023-25 = 319* Most losses 2 consecutive seasons, all time MLB 1. Mets 1962-1963 = 231 2. Philadelphia A's 1916-17 = 226 3. Orioles 2018-2019 = 223 4. White Sox 2023-24 = 222* * = Still in progress. "Can't afford to waste a season" will go down with "unprecedented financial flexibility" and "you can't spend a dollar if you only have 50 cents." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: I'm assuming you mean Teel and not Houser/Mead. We'll see how Getz spins not getting to .500 by the end of 2027. Ofc a big part of that development (talent brought in) is related to being unable to afford Garrett Crochet in the first place. He's even more valuable now than he was a year ago. Red Sox had missed the postseason in 3 of 4 seasons or 4/5 or whatever the exact statistic is. They managed to secure that generational talent while holding on to all of their best prospects other than Teel and Braden, ranked fourth and sixth in their system. I'm not sure what you're assuming or why. Teel looked good in half a season. Are you saying he'll suck until 2030? When you say anything to get a dig in, you seldom make sense. The White Sox hadn't been investing in International, or in stateside development for years. Now they are. I'm not sure how that's a bad thing. They've been targeting players their internal people have a plan to develop or tweak in their trades. That's a good thing. The Crochet deal was a good trade. The trade was predicated on Crochet being injury-prone, and the Sox being in year one of a rebuild. Whether or not the Sox could afford Crochet during his time here was well down the list of reasons he was traded. Big picture, complaining about the Crochet return is insane. The Red Sox have a great minor league system. They dealt 2 great prospects and two other interesting, productive players, and didn't put a dent in their system. I'm not sure what else you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Well, they’re 18-31 since the trade deadline. That .367 win % just so happens to exactly match their .367 win % for the entire season. Different team, same results… Shush it hater! That $15M into the Dominican facility and PD are a reallocation of resources. And it's already paying off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I never said a thing about Teel. Hopefully he is a 4-5 fWAR catcher. Of course he has to prove that first...not have his numbers extrapolated. He will also face more difficult pitching match ups if Quero is indeed traded. The problem is that the timeline for competing has now been successfully pushed back all the way until 2028 at the earliest...remaining Sox fans are (eventually) going to get tired of all the excuses for not spending anything significant in FA. Just like they're going to get tired of not having a new stadium plan in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 4 minutes ago, champagne030 said: Shush it hater! That $15M into the Dominican facility and PD are a reallocation of resources. And it's already paying off! Oh, sorry, I forgot. Wins and losses don’t matter during a rebuild until suddenly they did for a bit but now they don’t again because they’re still losing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Oh, sorry, I forgot. Wins and losses don’t matter during a rebuild until suddenly they did for a bit but now they don’t again because they’re still losing. Having a bonafide closer doesn't matter until 2028 as well. And then we need to limit 2027 wins (again) since no Top Ten draft pick available for another two more years. We're successfully doubling the Astros Cubs Royals timelines in the process. Yay??? Pretty soon Colson will be on the trade block before he gets too expensive in arbitration. Edited September 25 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Oh, sorry, I forgot. Wins and losses don’t matter during a rebuild until suddenly they did for a bit but now they don’t again because they’re still losing. Some are impatiently waiting on a board wide apology saying this team is still super shitty. Edited September 25 by champagne030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 35 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: "Can't afford to waste a season" will go down with "unprecedented financial flexibility" and "you can't spend a dollar if you only have 50 cents." how about "the money will be spent"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFest23 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Getz would have been hired to be GM by exactly ZERO other teams, yet he was the best choice (no other person needed to be interviewed obviously) for the Sox. The standards are SO low with this organization! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) There was some discussion about Michael A Taylor's wasted money so I figured I'd post this here. https://www.mlb.com/news/jose-siri-designated-for-assignment-by-mets-tyrone-taylor-activated-from-il Mets DFA'd Jose Siri who was supposed to be their answer in CF. He barely played for the Mets but when he did, he racked up -0.5 WAR and batted .063 (.262 OPS). He's paid $700k more than MAT and the worst part is they gave up an asset for him, Eric Orze, who's pitched 41.2 innings for the Rays to a 3.02 ERA. Imagine if the Mets had Orze and Vasil out of the bullpen this season, 2 players they jettisoned for nothing. They genuinely would've been better off signing Taylor. I also might take a flyer on Siri. He has had some success and historically plays some good CF defense at the very least. Though he is a kind of a douche, got benched twice in TBR, show boats, and worst of all said the little girl who accused Wander 'pedo' Franco of child abuse was "only looking for money". Maybe f*** the guy actually. Edited September 25 by nrockway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 No matter how you splice it, Getz is terrible at his job and this is an awful baseball team. They've dropped the bar so low that people are "excited" because they actually have a few MLB caliber players. Colson and Teel look like dudes. Smith a nice arm imo. The rest don't belong as full time MLB starters. After that, it's a bunch of having to dream on a guy... or someone that needs to do things they haven't done prior. They should have traded Grant Taylor at deadline with those prices for young controlled relivers or this off season if they're not going to start him. I'd move Cannon to the bullpen. I can't believe people think this team isn't favored to lose 100 games next year without major investment in talent which we all know isn't happening. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 ^^^ Look at Ray Ray spit the truth. ^^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 But hey, at least they have like the 17th ranked farm system in baseball to hang their hat on and supplement all these studs here today and they hired that biomechanics guy to break noah schultz. Big wins all around. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Yay more 29 year old journeymen out fielders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 4 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: But hey, at least they have like the 17th ranked farm system in baseball to hang their hat on and supplement all these studs here today and they hired that biomechanics guy to break noah schultz. Big wins all around. Don't forget the Green Beret quality control/internal processes and systems guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 11 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: But hey, at least they have like the 17th ranked farm system in baseball to hang their hat on and supplement all these studs here today and they hired that biomechanics guy to break noah schultz. Big wins all around. lol are we mad about this now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Oh, sorry, I forgot. Wins and losses don’t matter during a rebuild until suddenly they did for a bit but now they don’t again because they’re still losing. All I know is I don’t want to hear about the Barons winning the Championship as proof the rebuild is on the right path 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 21 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Except we are now in Year 2 1/2 of the Getz regime to look at the pitching situation... What's a reasonable amount for Getz to have to spend? We might not see that until 2028 at this rate. Because he will always have either spending or injury excuses even for 4-5 years of lackluster results. This is year 2 . 2nd year he's had vast amounts of money to spend 🤣. Longest biggest contract 2 years $15. Whats that tell you ? Lets not completely ignore Reinsdorf is planning his estate and relying on the coming new owner to pay off debts. Youd have to be an idiot to expect results. Same goes for this coming offseason. He's spending on the infrastructure and relying on coaches , analytics and the new DR facility to get the ball rolling towards developing youth. Those are things he likely had no input on doing in his previous position. He inherited a mess and the first year everything bottomed out. This year was better and hopefully next year is better and the year after that to if there's no strike and sooner or later the new owner and front office takes over. Or maybe our new owner will keep Getz. That sure would chap a lot of asses around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Mead just waved at that bouncer. A good 3rd baseman either knocks it down or turns 2. Instead you turn it into a 3 run double. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Montgomery leadoff double off the top of the wall. However makes a stupid play going to 3rd on a routine GB to SS hit by Quero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 (edited) Nice running diving catch by Hill in the RCF gap !! Thought for sure that's a double and scores another run or 2 for the Yanks. Gilbert playing with fire. No command Bases loaded. Edited September 26 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Gulbert gets out of the inning on 3-2 pitch .Flyout to Julks in LF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Our favorite GM just matched Kenny and Hahn’s worst season of their careers with 101 losses in his second season as GM. Congrats, Chris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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