flavum Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Tigers magic number over the Astros is 4, Chances are the Guardians and Tigers will be playing again next week, and the winner goes to Seattle. Sucks the Tigers are blowing the division, but get a second chance next week. Six teams after 162 is too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, flavum said: Tigers magic number over the Astros is 4, Chances are the Guardians and Tigers will be playing again next week, and the winner goes to Seattle. Sucks the Tigers are blowing the division, but get a second chance next week. Six teams after 162 is too many. But it made 7/15 games last night important for teams and their fanbases. Much better than the NBA with their newly-revised playoff system. NFL can do whatever they want and people will just eat it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 9/20/2025 at 8:40 PM, Autumn Dreamin said: You don't have to even go back to July 6. On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals). That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks. WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 21 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said: You don't have to even go back to July 6. On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals). That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks. WOW! I remember getting laughed at for saying the Tigers weren't that good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 19 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said: You don't have to even go back to July 6. On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals). That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks. WOW! That's even worse than our almost collapse in 2005. We were up 7.5 games to start September and up 9.5 games on September 4th. We did have a 15 game lead to start August though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 5 hours ago, flavum said: Tigers magic number over the Astros is 4, Chances are the Guardians and Tigers will be playing again next week, and the winner goes to Seattle. Sucks the Tigers are blowing the division, but get a second chance next week. Six teams after 162 is too many. Nah, this is exciting. One of the most disappointing things I had ever seen was when the 1993 Giants and Braves ended with 103 and 104 wins and the Giants went home. Having so many different teams with actual stakes with a week left is fun 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 4 minutes ago, chw42 said: That's even worse than our almost collapse in 2005. We were up 7.5 games to start September and up 9.5 games on September 4th. We did have a 15 game lead to start August though. Skubal falling apart yesterday was an ominous sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 (He took 99mph from Skubal to the head) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 It sure feels pretty over for the Tigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Guardians magic number is 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 cleveland is my least favorite team in the league (besides the cubs) but i can't help but laugh about detroit's total collapse. they were up 9.5 games 2 weeks ago, now they're down a game. "100% playoff odds" reminds me of the 2016 election "polling wizards". oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) Guardians 17-2 last 19 Tigers 7-20 last 27 and lost eight in a row Edited September 25 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Detroit still alive because the Astros are even more sorry than they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, nrockway said: cleveland is my least favorite team in the league (besides the cubs) but i can't help but laugh about detroit's total collapse. they were up 9.5 games 2 weeks ago, now they're down a game. "100% playoff odds" reminds me of the 2016 election "polling wizards". Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 2 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said: Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season? They sure are LOL. The only wise prediction they made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 11 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said: Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season? Yes which is why their data is flawed. They are taking liberties with the data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 20 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Yes which is why their data is flawed. They are taking liberties with the data Pretty sure a team coming off of a 41 win season with no significant improvements should have a zero percent chance at a playoff spot statistically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Pretty sure a team coming off of a 41 win season with no significant improvements should have a zero percent chance at a playoff spot statistically. I understand fully that there was no realistic chance they would but if they were running the model on pure statistics the White Sox always had a minuscule chance until mathematical elimination took hold, probably under 1% after May 15th but not completely 0. Maybe their model had the Indians at less than .5% thus rounded to zero. Sox could mathematically not be that low from day 1....well I guess maybe they could. I'm killing too many brain cells on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 27 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: I understand fully that there was no realistic chance they would but if they were running the model on pure statistics the White Sox always had a minuscule chance until mathematical elimination took hold, probably under 1% after May 15th but not completely 0. Maybe their model had the Indians at less than .5% thus rounded to zero. Sox could mathematically not be that low from day 1....well I guess maybe they could. I'm killing too many brain cells on this. Considering that a 41 win team with no improvements to speak of going into a season was a how many standard deviation case at being able to make the playoffs? Even 3 is a 0.3% chance. 4 is a 99.9937, of which both are effectively 0. We are talking a 45 to 50 win improvement in one year. The biggest improvement in MLB history one year over another is 35, which gets us to 76 wins, or 10 to 15 STILL short of the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 I’m not all that broken up about the tigers’ collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 46 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I’m not all that broken up about the tigers’ collapse. That's not even a sure thing. Houston finally winning today...then a trip to LAA, who would simply love to play spoiler against their hated rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Tigers were at just under 80% to make the postseason entering today. Probably closer to 75% with Houston up 9-0. Starting a rookie today in Melton against another rookie in Messick. Does Hinch get fired if they miss out on the postseason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) Tigers come out swinging...two solo homers from Jones and W.Perez. 2-0 Detroit bottom 1 Montero and Paddack as the bulk Tigers' relievers for Melton ... Detroit will need a solid cushion to hold the lead until innings 7-9. "A wounded animal is the most dangerous..." Great defensive player by Perez in RF as well to rob Ramirez. Edited September 25 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 3-0 Tigers Guardians starters hadn't allowed more than two runs in 19 consecutive games...17-2 stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 If the Tigers and Guardians win by 9 tonight, they watch Astros and Angels- and if the Angels win- the Tigers, Guardians, and Red Sox all clinch a playoff spot. That would be anti-climactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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