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2024: AL Central Thread

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Tigers magic number over the Astros is 4,

Chances are the Guardians and Tigers will be playing again next week, and the winner goes to Seattle. 

Sucks the Tigers are blowing the division, but get a second chance next week. Six teams after 162 is too many. 

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2 hours ago, flavum said:

Tigers magic number over the Astros is 4,

Chances are the Guardians and Tigers will be playing again next week, and the winner goes to Seattle. 

Sucks the Tigers are blowing the division, but get a second chance next week. Six teams after 162 is too many. 

But it made 7/15 games last night important for teams and their fanbases.

Much better than the NBA with their newly-revised playoff system.

NFL can do whatever they want and people will just eat it up.

On 9/20/2025 at 8:40 PM, Autumn Dreamin said:

You don't have to even go back to July 6.  On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals).  That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks.  WOW!

21 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

You don't have to even go back to July 6.  On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals).  That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks.  WOW!

I remember getting laughed at for saying the Tigers weren't that good...

19 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

You don't have to even go back to July 6.  On Sept. 4, the Tigers had an 11 game lead over the Guardians (and 9.5 games up on the Royals).  That 11 game lead has totally evaporated in less than 3 weeks.  WOW!

That's even worse than our almost collapse in 2005. We were up 7.5 games to start September and up 9.5 games on September 4th. We did have a 15 game lead to start August though. 

5 hours ago, flavum said:

Tigers magic number over the Astros is 4,

Chances are the Guardians and Tigers will be playing again next week, and the winner goes to Seattle. 

Sucks the Tigers are blowing the division, but get a second chance next week. Six teams after 162 is too many. 

Nah, this is exciting.  One of the most disappointing things I had ever seen was when the 1993 Giants and Braves ended with 103 and 104 wins and the Giants went home.  Having so many different teams with actual stakes with a week left is fun 

4 minutes ago, chw42 said:

That's even worse than our almost collapse in 2005. We were up 7.5 games to start September and up 9.5 games on September 4th. We did have a 15 game lead to start August though. 

Skubal falling apart yesterday was an ominous sign 

(He took 99mph from Skubal to the head)

It sure feels pretty over for the Tigers 

Guardians magic number is 3

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cleveland is my least favorite team in the league (besides the cubs) but i can't help but laugh about detroit's total collapse. they were up 9.5 games 2 weeks ago, now they're down a game. "100% playoff odds" reminds me of the 2016 election "polling wizards".

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Guardians 17-2 last 19

 

Tigers 7-20 last 27

and lost eight in a row

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Detroit still alive because the Astros are even more sorry than they are

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

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cleveland is my least favorite team in the league (besides the cubs) but i can't help but laugh about detroit's total collapse. they were up 9.5 games 2 weeks ago, now they're down a game. "100% playoff odds" reminds me of the 2016 election "polling wizards".

 

Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season?

2 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season?

They sure are LOL. The only wise prediction they made.

11 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Are the Sox a flat gray line that's been at zero % the entire season?

Yes which is why their data is flawed.  They are taking liberties with the data 

20 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

Yes which is why their data is flawed.  They are taking liberties with the data 

Pretty sure a team coming off of a 41 win season with no significant improvements should have a zero percent chance at a playoff spot statistically.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Pretty sure a team coming off of a 41 win season with no significant improvements should have a zero percent chance at a playoff spot statistically.

I understand fully that there was no realistic chance they would but if they were running  the model on pure statistics the White Sox always had a minuscule chance until mathematical elimination took hold, probably under 1% after May 15th but not completely 0.  Maybe their model had the Indians at less than .5% thus rounded to zero.  Sox could mathematically not be that low from day 1....well I guess maybe they could.  I'm killing too many brain cells on this.

27 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

I understand fully that there was no realistic chance they would but if they were running  the model on pure statistics the White Sox always had a minuscule chance until mathematical elimination took hold, probably under 1% after May 15th but not completely 0.  Maybe their model had the Indians at less than .5% thus rounded to zero.  Sox could mathematically not be that low from day 1....well I guess maybe they could.  I'm killing too many brain cells on this.

Considering that a 41 win team with no improvements to speak of going into a season was a how many standard deviation case at being able to make the playoffs? Even 3 is a 0.3% chance.  4 is a 99.9937, of which both are effectively 0.

We are talking a 45 to 50 win improvement in one year.  The biggest improvement in MLB history one year over another is 35, which gets us to 76 wins, or 10 to 15 STILL short of the playoffs.  

I’m not all that broken up about the tigers’ collapse.

46 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

I’m not all that broken up about the tigers’ collapse.

That's not even a sure thing.

Houston finally winning today...then a trip to LAA, who would simply love to play spoiler against their hated rivals.

Tigers were at just under 80% to make the postseason entering today.

Probably closer to 75% with Houston up 9-0.

Starting a rookie today in Melton against another rookie in Messick.

Does Hinch get fired if they miss out on the postseason?

Tigers come out swinging...two solo homers from Jones and W.Perez.

2-0 Detroit bottom 1

 

Montero and Paddack as the bulk Tigers' relievers for Melton ... Detroit will need a solid cushion to hold the lead until innings 7-9.

"A wounded animal is the most dangerous..."

 

Great defensive player by Perez in RF as well to rob Ramirez.

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3-0 Tigers

Guardians starters hadn't allowed more than two runs in 19 consecutive games...17-2 stretch.

If the Tigers and Guardians win by 9 tonight, they watch Astros and Angels- and if the Angels win- the Tigers, Guardians, and Red Sox all clinch a playoff spot. That would be anti-climactic. 

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