In the 4 major sports, 78 teams received votes.  The White Sox received 0 votes.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6007317/2024/12/30/nba-nhl-nfl-mlb-front-office-rankings?source=user-shared-article

All the more reason to just pick your next GM without holding any interviews.  That’s how you find the best talent.

But their drafting strategy has changed so much. Kenny Williams was focused on drafting athletes, Rick Hahn is after more complete ball players. This will be a major upgrade.

9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

But their drafting strategy has changed so much. Kenny Williams was focused on drafting athletes, Rick Hahn is after more complete ball players. This will be a major upgrade.

And Getz apparently likes players like Fletcher and Vargas.  Already on the road to Soxcess.

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

In the 4 major sports, 78 teams received votes.  The White Sox received 0 votes.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6007317/2024/12/30/nba-nhl-nfl-mlb-front-office-rankings?source=user-shared-article

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10149053-mlb-exec-ranks-dodgers-front-office-as-no-1-they-are-elite-at-everything

This was the result BEFORE the 2024 (White Sox and 13 other teams, including the Padres Giants Cubs Red Sox and Cardinals, receiving 0 votes) season.

 

1. Dodgers, 284 votes

2. Rays, 258 votes

3. Braves, 130 votes

4. Guardians, 101 votes

5. Orioles, 91 votes

6. Brewers, 52 votes

7. DBacks, 43 votes

8/9.  Rangers and Twins, 20 votes

10. Yankees, 19 votes

11. Phillies, 10 votes

12. Mariners, 6 votes

13. Astros, 5 votes

14. Tigers, 4 votes

15/16. Mets and Reds (interesting, would have thought Stearns had built up more fans but 2023 was a Mets' disaster/mine field)

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5424700/2024/04/24/mlb-front-office-rankings/

Edited December 31, 20241 yr by caulfield12

Jerry Reinsdorf who is the worst owner in pro sports has turned the White Sox into an irrelevant laughing stock and if he has just an ounce of shame in him must sell the team. 
 

On another note has Chicago ever experienced such horrible seasons by their professional teams, the Sox, Blackhawks and Bears are all just about the worst teams in their respective leagues with the Bulls mediocre, in 2024 the Cubs were the only team that had a winning record. I remember things pretty bad in the 1970s but not this bad.

Edited December 31, 20241 yr by The Mighty Mite

10 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

In the 4 major sports, 78 teams received votes.  The White Sox received 0 votes.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6007317/2024/12/30/nba-nhl-nfl-mlb-front-office-rankings?source=user-shared-article

I looked at the list and Chicago had a total of 1 vote.

Cubs - 0

Blackhawks -0

Bulls -0

Bears -1

12 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

I looked at the list and Chicago had a total of 1 vote.

Cubs - 0

Blackhawks -0

Bulls -0

Bears -1

And Jerry 0-2.

20 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

I looked at the list and Chicago had a total of 1 vote.

Cubs - 0

Blackhawks -0

Bulls -0

Bears -1

The guy who voted for the bears has the same agent as Poles, Eberflus and Shane Waldren.

That #1 front office on that list traded James Harden entering his prime on a reasonable contract and couldn't win a championship with two future Hall of Famers also in their prime. In other words, lol, Presti is the most overrated GM in the NBA The Dodgers, the #2 (💩) team, are also not a particularly well-managed team, their impact players are free agents who like being paid a lot of money to live in the Hollywood Hills and be Hollywood as Hell. Is their GM "the angel", the namesake of LA? Don't think so, I think it's some guy that loves trading for White Sox pitchers because they can't develop any. When was the last time LAD developed a player that was any good?

The only correct answer is the Green Bay Packers, don't need to use some pseudo-statistical method to reach that conclusion. Speaking of pseudo-statistical methods in journalism, I keep waiting for an article like this to be based on a survey created using some sort of multi-criteria decision analysis, it might actually be meaningful to ask these GMs (or whoever they're surveying) questions in a structured and rigorous way. PS didn't anyone tell you guys we're boycotting the NYT?

Edited December 31, 20241 yr by nrockway

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

That #1 front office on that list traded James Harden entering his prime on a reasonable contract and couldn't win a championship with two future Hall of Famers also in their prime. In other words, lol, Presti is the most overrated GM in the NBA The Dodgers, the #2 (💩) team, are also not a particularly well-managed team, their impact players are free agents who like being paid a lot of money to live in the Hollywood Hills and be Hollywood as Hell. Is their GM "the angel", the namesake of LA? Don't think so, I think it's some guy that loves trading for White Sox pitchers because they can't develop any. When was the last time LAD developed a player that was any good?

The only correct answer is the Green Bay Packers, don't need to use some pseudo-statistical method to reach that conclusion. Speaking of pseudo-statistical methods in journalism, I keep waiting for an article like this to be based on a survey created using some sort of multi-criteria decision analysis, it might actually be meaningful to ask these GMs (or whoever they're surveying) questions in a structured and rigorous way. PS didn't anyone tell you guys we're boycotting the NYT?

Will Smith, Corey Seager, Gavin Lux (lol)

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Will Smith, Corey Seager, Gavin Lux (lol)

Cody Bellinger, Clayton Kershaw….yeah they suck.

46 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Cody Bellinger, Clayton Kershaw….yeah they suck.

Kershaw debuted 6 years before the current regime showed up.

17 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Kershaw debuted 6 years before the current regime showed up.

The Dodgers bench players would be starters for the Sox and their front office also knew which of their garbage prospects/players they should deal to our back-to-back terrible talent-assessing GMs.  But that’s probably like taking candy from a baby anyways.

Edited December 31, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023

51 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Kershaw debuted 6 years before the current regime showed up.

2012 is the last time they didn’t make the playoffs.  How ever you want to slice it, I’d take that front office any day.

35 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

2012 is the last time they didn’t make the playoffs.  How ever you want to slice it, I’d take that front office any day.

Imagine questioning or trying to downplay the Dodgers on anything, while being a Sox fan.  🤣

Edited January 1, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

Kershaw debuted 6 years before the current regime showed up.

Puig Outman Pages Urias Buehler ... a boat load of young pitching Dusty/Carrot top, Stone, Pepiot.

4 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Will Smith, Corey Seager, Gavin Lux (lol)

2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Cody Bellinger, Clayton Kershaw….yeah they suck.

What does the current front office have to do with any of these players? I'm pretty sure Clayton Kershaw is old enough to be Friedman's daddy. Will Smith is the only player Friedman actually picked. He's the only one who was actually a useful player this season. Are the Dodgers ranked this way if they don't sign Betts, Freeman, Ohtani? Of course not and you can thank the city of Los Angeles for that, not a front office. Most of their recent prospects have busted or are in the process of busting. The Rays are more competent than the Dodgers, for example. This rating system is dumb and just some guys' "what have you done for me lately" opinions. 

Edited January 1, 20251 yr by nrockway

35 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

2012 is the last time they didn’t make the playoffs.  How ever you want to slice it, I’d take that front office any day.

Do your worst.

it's probably Bauer and Urias with DV.

By that measure, ding the Rays for Franco.

7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Puig Outman Pages Urias Buehler ... a boat load of young pitching Dusty/Carrot top, Stone, Pepiot.

Most of these guys suck at baseball. You can do this for every team. It's not the second best front office in professional sports, that's absurd.

4 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Most of these guys suck at baseball. You can do this for every team. It's not the second best front office in professional sports, that's absurd.

But this feels like dinging the Patriots under Belichick and Craft for their politics massage trips or Brady being overlooked by everyone.

The Chiefs are right up there...generational QB who signed a below value/flexible contract to accommodate more talent on the roster is 75% of it.

The Dodgers with their deferrals and marketing to Asia and monetizing Ohtani/their brand globally are transforming how the entire sport does business.

A Taipei investment company paid $4.5 million for that 50/50 Ohtani HR ball just to put it on display for customers.  How many fans of the Dodgers on that island will result?  

35 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Imagine questioning or trying to downplay the Dodgers on anything, while being a Sox fan.  🤣

Oh no I pointed something out in regards to their current front office that wasn't even a dig. What a stupid thing to do. 

19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Do your worst.

it's probably Bauer and Urias with DV.

By that measure, ding the Rays for Franco.

Trading Yordan Alvarez was the worst thing they did from a non Bauer thing. 

22 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Trading Yordan Alvarez was the worst thing they did from a non Bauer thing. 

https://dodgersway.com/posts/5-trades-the-dodgers-regret-making-under-andrew-friedman-01h50amjsssg/4

And O'Neil Cruz as well. 

Which demonstrates the strength of their LA scouting network.

Edited January 1, 20251 yr by caulfield12