Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: What failure are they obviously ignoring? Sox Claim Brandon Eisert, Designate Steven Wilson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Why do the Padres get no blame? If all 4 prospects suck, maybe we should all take a field trip to some Padres forum to tell their fans how concerned they should all be about their own development. Why do the Padres get no blame for getting Chris Getz to give them a playoff caliber pitcher for nothing? Is this a joke? Because their GM is smarter than failed GM Chris Getz and Chris Getz is a failure while their GM is getting good players from that failure and taking advantage of Getz being a failure. By the way, Getz Failed. Failed, sucked, stank, put together a 121 loss team that he thought he improved with field generals, and failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Sox Claim Brandon Eisert, Designate Steven Wilson. Semantics. They thought Eisert was better than Wilson. Every organization has around 200 players in their system. It's pretty extreme to declare a "failure" every time a team moves on from a player or gets into a roster squeeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Semantics. They thought Eisert was better than Wilson. Every organization has around 200 players in their system. It's pretty extreme to declare a "failure" every time a team moves on from a player or gets into a roster squeeze. And they thought Wilson was worth trading for as part of the Cease package. If Thorpe goes down for TJS and Zavala has another rotten year, the GM flopped on trading a strong pitcher for nothing. That is 100% how it looks now, and we will still hear about those pitching gurus and the scouting geniuses when it keeps going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Why do the Padres get no blame for getting Chris Getz to give them a playoff caliber pitcher for nothing? Is this a joke? Because their GM is smarter than failed GM Chris Getz and Chris Getz is a failure while their GM is getting good players from that failure and taking advantage of Getz being a failure. By the way, Getz Failed. Failed, sucked, stank, put together a 121 loss team that he thought he improved with field generals, and failed. And you're a moderator for a message board for that team. Must be lonely. Need a hug? You seem to be obsessed with the word "failure" tonight. You bet the house on the Chiefs? If the Sox traded Colson Montgomery to another team, you all would collapse onto the floor and cry about what a draft and development failure it was for Chris Getz. If it turned out that the receiving team couldn't develop him further, you would all declare that that's an even more damning failure for Chris Getz. If Montgomery thrived, it would be a bigger failure, still. LOL. Weird that 29 other teams are perfect and do everything perfectly. Maybe root for one of them? It's already been explained to you that nobody with a brain is considering the Cease trade to be a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 22 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: And they thought Wilson was worth trading for as part of the Cease package. If Thorpe goes down for TJS and Zavala has another rotten year, the GM flopped on trading a strong pitcher for nothing. That is 100% how it looks now, and we will still hear about those pitching gurus and the scouting geniuses when it keeps going on. How is it a failure if Thorpe needs TJS? Hey, somebody just had a heart attack in Italy and died. Boy, are you a failure, Balta. Hey, somebody was just in a car crash in Russia. Stop failing, Balta. Yeah, I would say that if all 4 players brought back in the Cease trade all collapsed and became miserable failures, then yes, that trade could be called a bad trade in retrospect. It doesn't look that way, now. It looks like your desperate for something to feed your narrative. Chris Getz just had a great off-season, and the detractors are getting nervous. "OMG, what if his overhaul works?!?!? Quick, start complaining about John Brebbia!!" All y'all are trying so hard to get roller skates on those goal posts for when the Sox get 20 wins better than last year. I can't wait when the Sox get up over .500 and start looking good, and all you guys will announce that the Sox must win at least 2 World Series Championships, or else that dynasty was a failure. LMAO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 28 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: And they thought Wilson was worth trading for as part of the Cease package. And they just basically traded Wilson for Eisert. If they traded Thorpe to the Mets for Juan Soto and money, would you consider that a failure? Would you complain that they shouldn't have obtained Thorpe if they were just going to trade him, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 19 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And you're a moderator for a message board for that team. Must be lonely. Need a hug? You seem to be obsessed with the word "failure" tonight. You bet the house on the Chiefs? If the Sox traded Colson Montgomery to another team, you all would collapse onto the floor and cry about what a draft and development failure it was for Chris Getz. If it turned out that the receiving team couldn't develop him further, you would all declare that that's an even more damning failure for Chris Getz. If Montgomery thrived, it would be a bigger failure, still. LOL. Weird that 29 other teams are perfect and do everything perfectly. Maybe root for one of them? It's already been explained to you that nobody with a brain is considering the Cease trade to be a failure. Colson Montgomery was drafted by Rick Hahn you know. So if he’s a success this year, you agree Getz Getz no credit right? All good work by Hahn. Or are you just refusing to give Getz blame for his failures? Just running the same logic. It’s almost as if I’m talking to someone on Getz’s payroll again. It’s hard to make someone understand something when their salary depends on them not understanding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And they just basically traded Wilson for Eisert. If they traded Thorpe to the Mets for Juan Soto and money, would you consider that a failure? Would you complain that they shouldn't have obtained Thorpe if they were just going to trade him, again? Can they??!!??? Please!!! I am totally ok with deals that make the team better. Did the Cease deal do that? If not, the GM will deserve to be fired right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 What's really funny is that half of the Dodgers' pitching staff are going to be Dave Draveckys walking around the hospital this season. We act like it's so great the Dodgers spend so much money, but they have to, it's like the Dodgers have a Soylent Green machine in their clubhouse, grinding up the arms of every pitcher they catch. The White Sox have one guy who they're going to be prudent and take it slow with, and you all act like the Sox are worse. The WHO should issue a warning against the Dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, WestEddy said: How is it a failure if Thorpe needs TJS? Hey, somebody just had a heart attack in Italy and died. Boy, are you a failure, Balta. Hey, somebody was just in a car crash in Russia. Stop failing, Balta. Yeah, I would say that if all 4 players brought back in the Cease trade all collapsed and became miserable failures, then yes, that trade could be called a bad trade in retrospect. It doesn't look that way, now. It looks like your desperate for something to feed your narrative. Chris Getz just had a great off-season, and the detractors are getting nervous. "OMG, what if his overhaul works?!?!? Quick, start complaining about John Brebbia!!" All y'all are trying so hard to get roller skates on those goal posts for when the Sox get 20 wins better than last year. I can't wait when the Sox get up over .500 and start looking good, and all you guys will announce that the Sox must win at least 2 World Series Championships, or else that dynasty was a failure. LMAO!! He did? Says who? You? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: What's really funny is that half of the Dodgers' pitching staff are going to be Dave Draveckys walking around the hospital this season. We act like it's so great the Dodgers spend so much money, but they have to, it's like the Dodgers have a Soylent Green machine in their clubhouse, grinding up the arms of every pitcher they catch. The White Sox have one guy who they're going to be prudent and take it slow with, and you all act like the Sox are worse. The WHO should issue a warning against the Dodgers. Making fun of the Dodgers for anything when you are a White Sox fan is insanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Colson Montgomery was drafted by Rick Hahn you know. So if he’s a success this year, you agree Getz Getz no credit right? All good work by Hahn. Or are you just refusing to give Getz blame for his failures? Just running the same logic. It’s almost as if I’m talking to someone on Getz’s payroll again. It’s hard to make someone understand something when their salary depends on them not understanding it. Why, does Hahn sneak into Montgomery's gym and coach him at night, even though he's no longer with the organization? I believe that Chris Getz developed Colson Montgomery. It was good of Hahn to hire Mike Shirley. No, it's like you're talking to somebody who isn't trying to be your little internet buddy and agree with all the goofiness you're spewing right now. You've yet to list out a failure I'm supposed to blame Getz for. Bone spurs in Thorpe's elbow? Are you saying Getz chloroformed him, and had a secret operation to put those in his arm? That's silly. Don't say that anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Can they??!!??? Please!!! I am totally ok with deals that make the team better. Did the Cease deal do that? If not, the GM will deserve to be fired right? The Cease deal made the White Sox better. And so will this Eisert claim. I'm not sure why you're rooting for a failure so that Chris Getz can be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He did? Says who? You? I see publications online giving him a solid B for the Crochet trade and the signings he's made. The rest of the world doesn't live in "I hate Chris Getz" land. They actually make objecting observations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Why, does Hahn sneak into Montgomery's gym and coach him at night, even though he's no longer with the organization? I believe that Chris Getz developed Colson Montgomery. It was good of Hahn to hire Mike Shirley. No, it's like you're talking to somebody who isn't trying to be your little internet buddy and agree with all the goofiness you're spewing right now. You've yet to list out a failure I'm supposed to blame Getz for. Bone spurs in Thorpe's elbow? Are you saying Getz chloroformed him, and had a secret operation to put those in his arm? That's silly. Don't say that anymore. Great; so you agree that if Colson Montgomery doesn’t become a strong major league regular then Chris Getz should be fired. You’ve finally given us a standard to evaluate him by that is something other than nonstop praise. I’m game for this, I totally agree. If Montgomery is a successful big leaguer this year it can buy Getz several more seasons. If he flops this year you agree Getz deserves fired immediately as he developed him. I agree let’s roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Making fun of the Dodgers for anything when you are a White Sox fan is insanity. It's warranted. Why are you giving them a pass? Do you work for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I see publications online giving him a solid B for the Crochet trade and the signings he's made. The rest of the world doesn't live in "I hate Chris Getz" land. They actually make objecting observations. One good trade didn’t make his entire offseason good. What signings were positive? His geriatric RF platoon? He signed a handful of veteran bums because they were cheap. Edited February 10 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, WestEddy said: The Cease deal made the White Sox better. And so will this Eisert claim. I'm not sure why you're rooting for a failure so that Chris Getz can be fired. The Cease deal made a 121 loss team better. I’m just gonna leave this one here. You’re not paid well enough to shovel something that smells this bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He did? Says who? You? I’ll happily give him a mid-level grade this year. The trades for 32 year old relievers are bizarre and make no sense on paper, but he knows no one will fire anyone if those deals flop and no one will blame his pitching coaches. On paper the Crochet deal was a good one and that’s the important one. With payroll constraints, since Nov. 1 2024 he’s been all right, but we will see how the deals go. August 2023 through October 2024 he was an epic, unimaginable nightmare. 121 big league losses and basically every trade was a loss on paper at the time and looked worse later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Great; so you agree that if Colson Montgomery doesn’t become a strong major league regular then Chris Getz should be fired. You’ve finally given us a standard to evaluate him by that is something other than nonstop praise. I’m game for this, I totally agree. If Montgomery is a successful big leaguer this year it can buy Getz several more seasons. If he flops this year you agree Getz deserves fired immediately as he developed him. I agree let’s roll. Can you show us a copy of this contract you signed with MLB where they guarantee that every single prospect that comes through our system will become a hall-of-famer? No, how about this? If Colson Montgomery is a reasonably good first year major leaguer when he eventually is promoted, you quit your full time job, quit being a moderator here, and go walk up and down Michigan avenue wearing a placard saying you're a failure? That seems a lot more fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The Cease deal made a 121 loss team better. I’m just gonna leave this one here. You’re not paid well enough to shovel something that smells this bad. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! So good I had to quote it so it shows up twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The Cease deal made a 121 loss team better. I’m just gonna leave this one here. You’re not paid well enough to shovel something that smells this bad. It's a rebuild. I thought win-loss records didn't matter in a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Can you show us a copy of this contract you signed with MLB where they guarantee that every single prospect that comes through our system will become a hall-of-famer? No, how about this? If Colson Montgomery is a reasonably good first year major leaguer when he eventually is promoted, you quit your full time job, quit being a moderator here, and go walk up and down Michigan avenue wearing a placard saying you're a failure? That seems a lot more fair. What will you do if Montgomery fails if I agree to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I see publications online giving him a solid B for the Crochet trade and the signings he's made. The rest of the world doesn't live in "I hate Chris Getz" land. They actually make objecting observations. I see C’s. Mediocre, just like Getz. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-offseason-grades-so-far-mets-dodgers-red-sox-get-a-braves-cardinals-more-fail-for-inaction/ https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10152078-report-card-grades-for-all-30-mlb-teams-offseason.amp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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