Autumn Dreamin Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 21 minutes ago, T R U said: He’s a good poster, I wasn’t trying to single him out more so just a general comment on the situation. I get it’s spring training, it’s also a large majority of the guys who are going to be on this roster. We knew they were bad already, I don’t think it matters much what they’re working on. She, for the record. And I guess I will never for the life of me understand why, if you know they're all bad and it doesn't matter what they're working on anyway, anyone would bother tuning in to a radio/gameday feed of a Justin Anderson inning vs. the Rockies in February in the first place? Like I'm tuning in to ST because I do think it matters what the players relevant for the future are working on, but there's literally no room to have that conversation. 8 minutes ago, T R U said: See, now there’s something to looking forward to. Until his velo is down a tick or he gives up an RBI to Machado and we're back to the same sky is falling song and dance. But yeah, clearly my point is being lost here so I'll just drop it. Waste of time. Sox suck, woo! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 21 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: I would welcome discussions about particular concerns over particular players! I want nothing more than to actually talk about guys' pitch mixes and whether they will play in the majors, or if a hitter needs to make swing changes and how that's working out. A single spring appearance is not informative of anyone's ultimate career trajectory, but it definitely can add to an existing portfolio of concerns. My issue is that rather than contextualizing the singular performance (ex. "Iriarte lost his command in his second inning") or even the broader concern (ex. "Iriarte might not make it be a starter if he can't stay in the zone"), folks will immediately extrapolate to "Iriarte will never be a starter, everyone on the roster is atrocious, the White Sox may never win again." The White Sox suck. Cool. I'm not "gaslighting" you about that. I'm just interested in what the problems actually are (and maybe how/if they can fix it) instead of responding to every inning of spring training with "Sox suck" like it's news. It's lazy and uninteresting and leaves no room for actual conversation. You are in for a long few years if you are expecting this level of discourse on a message board with this team. Honestly, that didn't even exist in 2005, let alone now. You can keep the lectures about how we should be thinking and posting, as gaslighting is exactly what that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Dreamin Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You are in for a long few years if you are expecting this level of discourse on a message board with this team. Honestly, that didn't even exist in 2005, let alone now. You can keep the lectures about how we should be thinking and posting, as gaslighting is exactly what that is. I'm sincerely not trying to lecture or gaslight anyone? I just want to occasionally talk about players and prospects and White Sox baseball in a way that's a bit deeper than "worst team in history" even if many of those things are still bad in their own way. But like I said, I get it, not the place. I'll just stick to posting news and highlights until MiLB gets going, no big deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 32 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: I'm sincerely not trying to lecture or gaslight anyone? I just want to occasionally talk about players and prospects and White Sox baseball in a way that's a bit deeper than "worst team in history" even if many of those things are still bad in their own way. But like I said, I get it, not the place. I'll just stick to posting news and highlights until MiLB gets going, no big deal. Yeah, don't actually try to have a discussion about players and potential or performance. You'll get shouted down if it's anything but "they will all suck because the white sox will suck until they get a new owner." Not necessarily wrong but not informative or productive for discussion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Autumn Dreamin said: I'm sincerely not trying to lecture or gaslight anyone? I just want to occasionally talk about players and prospects and White Sox baseball in a way that's a bit deeper than "worst team in history" even if many of those things are still bad in their own way. But like I said, I get it, not the place. I'll just stick to posting news and highlights until MiLB gets going, no big deal. I would love to have better subjects to talk about, but it IS objectivity accurate to be able to point to past performance as a reasonable expectation of future performance. Just because it isn't good in most cases doesn't make it wrong. If and when those things improve, so will the level of expectations. For example when it was established last year that Colson had problems hitting velocity last year, it shouldn't be a surprise that him not hitting fastballs this year gets noticed. It's not unreasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Getz loves losing it’s all he does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 38 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I would love to have better subjects to talk about, but it IS objectivity accurate to be able to point to past performance as a reasonable expectation of future performance. Just because it isn't good in most cases doesn't make it wrong. If and when those things improve, so will the level of expectations. For example when it was established last year that Colson had problems hitting velocity last year, it shouldn't be a surprise that him not hitting fastballs this year gets noticed. It's not unreasonable. It would be weird to only focus on his strikeouts (negatively), or ONLY focus on his two well-hit balls off fastballs (one off Thielbar, the homer...the other today in his 3rd at-bat that was a line-up with high EV and probability of being a hit if it wasn't right at the outfielder. In that case, he would be hitting .286 instead of .143 and there would be less "sighing/exasperation" over every little thing he does/has done. That said, anointing him as a possibility to start the season at SS has put some additional pressure on him, in terms of media and fan expectations. Not sure that was really necessary...maybe they feel they need to challenge him? Whatever works as motivation...God knows what they did with Vaughn and Sheets these years, because they never REALLY risked losing their spot on the team no matter what they did or didn't do on the field of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Soxfest said: Getz loves losing it’s all he does He’s quickly mastered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Love Autumn popping off here. God tier poster saying it like it is. The low effort, drive-by, substance-less s%*# posting by the usual suspects like it's their day job has made this place a straight up unpleasant place to interact. It sucks having to dredge through the copious muck to unearth any quality discourse. Here's hoping it doesn't seep it's way into the minor league threads. I appreciate your effort and posts Autumn. Hope they continue. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 The Sox love Justin Anderson, despite 0 productive seasons. I hope he gets better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 minutes ago, GreenSox said: The Sox love Justin Anderson, despite 0 productive seasons. I hope he gets better. He's a reliever in that "around 30, no track record" group I kept saying they could DFA and no one should bat an eye. He's just a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: He's a reliever in that "around 30, no track record" group I kept saying they could DFA and no one should bat an eye. He's just a guy. He's more than just an arm in the pen here for a tryout; they've coddled him and given him more leeway than most and he's expected/intended to make this pen. . Sure they could DFA him whenever, but they haven't, despite good cause. There's something about him they really like, so I hope to start to show it. Edited February 26 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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