caulfield12 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 20 minutes ago, WestEddy said: If Slater comes back June 1, you're talking about Drury, Lee, Tauchman, Benintendi, Rojas, and maybe even Colson Montgomery being ready for roster spots. Slater will be in competition with Taylor for backup OF with Drury, Baldwin, Rojas and Vargas all able to play a corner. It's not impossible, but they're going to have a 2 month roster crunch from June 1-August 1 if they don't start making some trades or cutting some OFs. Tell me when Colson is at least at .240 and not striking out at an unsustainable rate for even Charlotte… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: 8 of their 13 losses have been by 3 runs or less, 3 have been walked-off. If you think that indicates they are close to competing, I'd have to disagree. Plus their schedule so far has not even been against competitive teams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Full "strength": C - 2 of Lee/Quero/Thaiss/Narvaez (Lee has options, Thaiss doesn't) 1B - Vaughn IF - Sosa/Baldwin/Meidroth/Vargas/Amaya/Drury/Rojas OF - Benintendi/Robert/Tauchman/Taylor/Slater My guess is they eventually go with 6 IF and 4 OF, Amaya being DFAed, and one of Slater/Taylor being cut/traded. They only way to roster Elko is a straight replacement for Vaughn. Vaughn traditionally hits a *little* better in May, and is full throttle in June. If they see any value in Vaughn, they may wait until July 1 to cut bait. If Vaughn continues to OPS at this sub-.500 rate, maybe they consider Elko end of May...? The sooner the better. No way they bring back Vaughn next year so get a jump start on seeing if Elko can be the answer. His early audition for the 1B spot for next season. Make sure he gets enough at bats to allow you to decide. Could always cut Vaughn loose toward the end of the season to see if a contender will add him as a bench bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: More like “Temu Trout”, haha. Good question. One could wonder about injuries for most of those guys but that doesn’t explain Anderson and Vaughn. I think Anderson just never really had a very good approach at the plate but how does he go from batting title to worthless so quickly? But he hacked at a lot of bad pitches so once you realize he doesn’t have much more patience than Hobby Baez, just stop giving him pitches to hit. It happened a little bit with the Cubs World Series team as Baez and Bryant turned into complete pumpkins in their late 20s as well but Schwarber is still mashing and Rizzo was productive into his early 30s. It’s just odd that all of the big Sox hitting prospects peak so early and then most are effectively out of the league before they turn 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Tell me when Colson is at least at .240 and not striking out at an unsustainable rate for even Charlotte… I have no idea what you're going off about, here. We're talking about roster spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, wegner said: If you think that indicates they are close to competing, I'd have to disagree. Plus their schedule so far has not even been against competitive teams. Boston, Detroit, Cleveland and the Angels are all at .500 or above, and the first 3 are considered to be "competitive" teams. I don't see where I indicted where I "thought" they were close to competing. Perhaps you could help me out with a reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: More like “Temu Trout”, haha. Good question. One could wonder about injuries for most of those guys but that doesn’t explain Anderson and Vaughn. I think Anderson just never really had a very good approach at the plate but how does he go from batting title to worthless so quickly? But he hacked at a lot of bad pitches so once you realize he doesn’t have much more patience than Hobby Baez, just stop giving him pitches to hit. I genuinely think TA was a guy whose entire built-up persona was damaged heavily by the baby mama stuff and then getting stuck by Ramirez just devastated his confidence and he has never recovered. Remember he was doing all the image building with the photography and I think he even had (or was rumored to have) a sponsorship with a car brand at one quick point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: It happened a little bit with the Cubs World Series team as Baez and Bryant turned into complete pumpkins in their late 20s as well but Schwarber is still mashing and Rizzo was productive into his early 30s. It’s just odd that all of the big Sox hitting prospects peak so early and then most are effectively out of the league before they turn 30. Jorge Soler has done fine as well. And Willson Contreras. Didn’t pull an Addison Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: It happened a little bit with the Cubs World Series team as Baez and Bryant turned into complete pumpkins in their late 20s as well but Schwarber is still mashing and Rizzo was productive into his early 30s. It’s just odd that all of the big Sox hitting prospects peak so early and then most are effectively out of the league before they turn 30. Non-tendering Schwarber to sign Joc Peterson for 1/$7 million and go with him as your starter instead for the 2021 season. The Nationals then signed Schwarber for 1/$10 million and he broke out. “Saved” a whole $3 million. What a Cubbie-riffic move. Edited April 17 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Boston, Detroit, Cleveland and the Angels are all at .500 or above, and the first 3 are considered to be "competitive" teams. I don't see where I indicted where I "thought" they were close to competing. Perhaps you could help me out with a reference? I thought you were indicating how many games are close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, wegner said: I thought you were indicating how many games are close. And I thought you were using "competitive" as in competing for first place. A 2 run loss is still "competitive", as in, there was a chance for the losing team to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And I thought you were using "competitive" as in competing for first place. A 2 run loss is still "competitive", as in, there was a chance for the losing team to win. You do know it is ok to admit this team just sucks ass, don't you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And I thought you were using "competitive" as in competing for first place. A 2 run loss is still "competitive", as in, there was a chance for the losing team to win. Not with this bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, wegner said: You do know it is ok to admit this team just sucks ass, don't you? It's weird that you feel that viewpoint is under-represented here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtom Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 43 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: “Trout 2.0” lol one thing I can’t figure out is why do Sox hitters peak in their low to mid 20s? We’ve seen it now with Timmy, Moncada, Eloy, Robert, Madrigal, Vaughn. Given the peak was short lived in most of these cases but each hitter got objectively worse when they entered their late 20s. Does this happen to other teams too? Seems odd to me. Sox coaching has no clue how to develop talent, specifically hitters. Pitchers adjust to them, but Sox Coaches have no clue how to adjust back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 35 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: The sooner the better. No way they bring back Vaughn next year so get a jump start on seeing if Elko can be the answer. His early audition for the 1B spot for next season. Make sure he gets enough at bats to allow you to decide. Could always cut Vaughn loose toward the end of the season to see if a contender will add him as a bench bat. Even if you get 2 seasons of Elko being palkaish until you either sign someone(not likely) or get lucky and draft and develop someone(winning the lottery higher probability) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 36 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I have no idea what you're going off about, here. We're talking about roster spots. “If Slater comes back June 1, you're talking about Drury, Lee, Tauchman, Benintendi, Rojas, and maybe even Colson Montgomery being ready for roster spots.” WestEddy Why would it matter if there’s an open roster spot if he’s not close to being ready? You’re putting the cart before the horse… Edited April 17 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Even if you get 2 seasons of Elko being palkaish until you either sign someone(not likely) or get lucky and draft and develop someone(winning the lottery higher probability) Are we talking skinny or fat Palka? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, Tomtom said: Sox coaching has no clue how to develop talent, specifically hitters. Pitchers adjust to them, but Sox Coaches have no clue how to adjust back. True, but some of that is on the player. Robert still can't comprehend how pitchers get him out even if they do it over and over. Sox have player who might have some ability but are baseball dumb and incompetent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, wegner said: Are we talking skinny or fat Palka? Was he ever skinny??? 😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: “If Slater comes back June 1, you're talking about Drury, Lee, Tauchman, Benintendi, Rojas, and maybe even Colson Montgomery being ready for roster spots.” WestEddy Why would it matter if there’s an open roster spot if he’s not close to being ready? You’re putting the cart before the horse… Crap I totally forgot Rojas lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Was he ever skinny??? 😭 Relatively, yes Actually, probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 M.Moniak .225/770 Would still be one of the best hitters on the team...younger/still carries potential and can play CF comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, bmags said: I’m sorry but there is no way that is true. Is that true? I’d expect we are 10 runs at least ahead of last year Basically 3 games carrying all the water for this offense (and 3 of their 4 wins) and they have been absolutely atrocious in basically every other game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 20 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: “If Slater comes back June 1, you're talking about Drury, Lee, Tauchman, Benintendi, Rojas, and maybe even Colson Montgomery being ready for roster spots.” WestEddy Why would it matter if there’s an open roster spot if he’s not close to being ready? You’re putting the cart before the horse… Dude, it's a side-conversation about how Slater may encounter a roster crunch when he returns from injury as early as June 1. Nobody's talking about an open roster spot for Montgomery. Key word "maybe" applying to Monty being "ready" contributing to a roster crunch that might leave Slater on the outside. It matters to you because you don't have the ability to contribute to a conversation without carving out a word or sentence, and making it about your own inane tangent nobody was talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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