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8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Pitcher should've been doing that. He was much closer to home after Quero made the throw and was standing there watching the throw instead of thinking about his fielding responsibilities.

Any way, you look around MLB, not going to win many games scoring 1 or 2 runs a game . Sox have very few games scoring 4 , 5, or 6 runs. Usually  it's 0-3 or 7+ runs. Not a whole lot of in between.

Quero was between Davis and the plate.  He didn't take two steps back to cover.  Anyway, we don't need to argue.  You are absolutely right about the hitting.  They squandered easy opportunities galore tonight.  The problem is, when the hitting is so anemic, it makes executing the fundamentals so much more necessary.

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8 minutes ago, SouthChicagoBorn said:

Quero was between Davis and the plate.  He didn't take two steps back to cover.  Anyway, we don't need to argue.  You are absolutely right about the hitting.  They squandered easy opportunities galore tonight.  The problem is, when the hitting is so anemic, it makes executing the fundamentals so much more necessary.

I mean sure, but good teams win when they make 2 errors or not. We're not just a bad team, we're once again potentially historically bad.  We did our old 6 hits per run thing. No power and we play in the 3 TTO era at a bandbox come summer. At least KW's old s%*# teams were entertaining to watch and could knock it around the park once and awhile.

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19 minutes ago, fathom said:

Haha, good thing these losses don’t matter.  No reason for Buxton to dive 

When you're as fast as he is,  that wall comes at you awful fast. Better, if you have to lunge for it like he did, that you just catch it falling down rather than risk trying to regain your balance as you stumble towards the wall . Even with a padded wall those abrupt stops in an awkward position will do damage.

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7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

When you're as fast as he is,  that wall comes at you awful fast. Better, if you have to lunge for it like he did, that you just catch it falling down rather than risk trying to regain your balance as you stumble towards the wall . Even with a padded wall those abrupt stops in an awkward position will do damage.

Yup, I've been in that position it's easier to just dive especially when you're as old and beat up as Buxton.

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8 minutes ago, SouthChicagoBorn said:

Quero was between Davis and the plate.  He didn't take two steps back to cover.  Anyway, we don't need to argue.  You are absolutely right about the hitting.  They squandered easy opportunities galore tonight.  The problem is, when the hitting is so anemic, it makes executing the fundamentals so much more necessary.

I think it's good baseball discussion about how we saw the play. Keaschall scored from 2nd mainly because as a fast heady base runner he saw Quero too far up the line to get back and Davis had his back turned to the plate also.

If we were side by side we'd be like check the replay that shows the position of both Quero and Davis and you'd be like check the replay on Quero's throw. 🙂

I still hate the umps though . I'd rather blame them.

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12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

When you're as fast as he is,  that wall comes at you awful fast. Better, if you have to lunge for it like he did, that you just catch it falling down rather than risk trying to regain your balance as you stumble towards the wall . Even with a padded wall those abrupt stops in an awkward position will do damage.

Don’t disagree, just seems him landing on a dive is potentially harmful as well.

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Love the AI answer....was trying to determine how many of his injuries occurred when diving for balls, lol.  Makes Robert/Moncada/Jimenez look practically "healthy" by comparison.

 

 

Byron Buxton has experienced injuries across various types of plays, but some common themes emerge. He's particularly prone to leg injuries while running, including hamstring issues, hip problems, and foot injuries. Additionally, Buxton has had injuries related to his wrists and hands, such as strained wrists and broken hands. He's also had injuries to his head and neck, including migraines, concussions, and back spasms. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Running Injuries:
    Buxton has a history of leg injuries, including hamstring strains, hip problems, and foot sprains, which are common when he's running. 
     
    Wrist and Hand Injuries:
  • He's experienced strained wrists, broken hands, and injuries to his thumb, likely due to his athleticism and aggressive playing style.

     

    Head and Neck Injuries:
  • Buxton has dealt with migraines, concussions, and back spasms, indicating a range of head and neck-related injuries. 
    Other Injuries:
  • He has also had injuries to his knee, shoulder, and toe, showcasing a wide range of injuries across different body parts. 
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It's worth noting that Buxton's injury history is a combination of bad luck and the physical demands of his aggressive playing style. 
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9 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

That's a controlled dive though more than anything.  He is brittle though that's for sure

At least we didn't have Yoan Moncada thrown out on the basepaths by Buxton tonight...so there's that.

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10 hits and the 2 runs were scored on sacrifices. Quero has improved this team tremendously, time to replace Vaughn with Elko. there are some decent players in the lineup but there are too many complete non-factors. did anyone expect that last palacios at bat to go any different? Duran is showing his whole mix to every other hitter he faces, he gets back on track throwing Josh 3 fastballs down the middle. Why is Maton leading off? he would've been 0-5 if Buxton wasn't saving his defense for the 9th inning.

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They may actually set a record for most games scoring three runs or less.

Right now 18 times out of 23 games, three runs or less (78%)

One time in the last 10 games they have scored over three runs.

That's really bad. 🤡

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9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

They may actually set a record for most games scoring three runs or less.

Right now 18 times out of 23 games, three runs or less (78%)

One time in the last 10 games they have scored over three runs.

That's really bad. 🤡

The Royals completely blew a 3-0 lead in the ninth against Colorado, but managed to hold off the Rockies in extras.

 

COL 4-18 (but also can't pick inside Top Ten next year), White Sox 5-18

White Sox started 6-24 last March/April last year.

 

Pirates -25, White Sox -30, Rockies -52

If the White Sox don't win at least one, they're going to get absolutely steamrolled in Sacramento.

 

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17 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

They may actually set a record for most games scoring three runs or less.

Right now 18 times out of 23 games, three runs or less (78%)

One time in the last 10 games they have scored over three runs.

That's really bad. 🤡

Outside of Crochet, they’ve faced a lot of crap pitching.

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Nice play by Buxton. I think Beni has proven himself to be a productive big leaguer. Surprised some of the trade fanatics on here aren't talking more about trading Beni. He's really a good leadoff hitter, folks. He could play for anybody. I'm convinced.

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38 minutes ago, greg775 said:

Nice play by Buxton. I think Beni has proven himself to be a productive big leaguer. Surprised some of the trade fanatics on here aren't talking more about trading Beni. He's really a good leadoff hitter, folks. He could play for anybody. I'm convinced.

They will. It will most likely be for a minor league you will never see play. Subtraction to create long term subtraction.

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43 minutes ago, greg775 said:

Nice play by Buxton. I think Beni has proven himself to be a productive big leaguer. Surprised some of the trade fanatics on here aren't talking more about trading Beni. He's really a good leadoff hitter, folks. He could play for anybody. I'm convinced.

Overall, -0.4 fWAR in his Sox career.

Almost 31 years old.

Has been increasingly injury-prone the second half of his career.

Improved defense this year, almost neutral compared to 2023-24.

Due $45.5 million from now through the end of 2027...that's going to be the biggest sticking point.

How much money JR is willing to send along as a subsidy to get rid of the remaining contract.   It's going to have to be at least $10-15 eaten by the Sox/JR, at a minimum, because he's getting older as well.

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