On 8/10/2026 at 1:39 PM, bmags said:

I was just at T-mobile and it was so great. That said, boy it needs a lot of space, and it luckily fits over a similar rail area to the one we'd build on. Fortunately it's situated beautifully with the sound and the skyline. I was sitting I believe under that pepsi banner 10 or so rows down so you got to see both, I was astounded.

My impression is that 'hitting dingers in the river' sounds more fun in practice than reality. That part of the branch is not big. It would still provide a lot of fun as a transportation area (bringing water taxis alive) and mini river walk, but it's very scenic going west. Just focus on getting some of the lake/skyline and let the river be a fun place outside the park.

Good point about the "HRs in the river" idea. Such a thing would be secondary to other draws at that location - skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown, stadium district. If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there, the dingers in the river thing wouldn't be a deal breaker.

On 8/11/2026 at 4:58 PM, 77 Hitmen said:

Good point about the "HRs in the river" idea. Such a thing would be secondary to other draws at that location - skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown, stadium district. If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there, the dingers in the river thing wouldn't be a deal breaker.

Do you know how many HRs have been hit in McCovey cove at Oracle this season? One. Anyway, the Chicago River is not a Bay and looks nothing like it. Instead it is a silty murky mostly stagnant canal that periodically gets controlled sewage overflow. The Canal is host to invasive species. Wrigley does fine without "skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown." Sox need a winning team, not a new stadium that is more inconvenient for many fans to get to.

"If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there"

Not sure how any baseball stadium let alone a retractable dome (700 ft diam. just for the footprint) would fit within the latest approved TIF plan. (i.e., between 14th st. and 15th st. and between the LaSalle St. extension and Wells.) Money? I think Ishbia family wealth (Mat and Justin) is largely contingent on United Wholesale Mortgage, which hasn't been doing well.

Anyway 77.. I am focused on this season and this team, but I admit to being amused by your imagination.

Edited yesterday at 06:59 AM1 day by tray

1 hour ago, tray said:

Do you know how many HRs have been hit in McCovey cove at Oracle this season? One. Anyway, the Chicago River is not a Bay and looks nothing like it. Instead it is a silty murky mostly stagnant canal that periodically gets controlled sewage overflow. The Canal is host to invasive species. Wrigley does fine without "skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown." Sox need a winning team, not a new stadium that is more inconvenient for many fans to get to.

"If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there"

Not sure how any baseball stadium let alone a retractable dome (700 ft diam. just for the footprint) would fit within the latest approved TIF plan. (i.e., between 14th st. and 15th st. and between the LaSalle St. extension and Wells.) Money? I think Ishbia family wealth (Mat and Justin) is largely contingent on United Wholesale Mortgage, which hasn't been doing well.

Anyway 77.. I am focused on this season and this team, but I admit to being amused by your imagination.

It would be like losing a big fat carp on your fishing line in the Des Plaines River. Disappointing at first, but you would realize you couldn’t have eaten it anyways so it would have been all for show. 🤣

Edited yesterday at 08:19 AM1 day by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, tray said:

Do you know how many HRs have been hit in McCovey cove at Oracle this season? One. Anyway, the Chicago River is not a Bay and looks nothing like it. Instead it is a silty murky mostly stagnant canal that periodically gets controlled sewage overflow. The Canal is host to invasive species. Wrigley does fine without "skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown." Sox need a winning team, not a new stadium that is more inconvenient for many fans to get to.

"If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there"

Not sure how any baseball stadium let alone a retractable dome (700 ft diam. just for the footprint) would fit within the latest approved TIF plan. (i.e., between 14th st. and 15th st. and between the LaSalle St. extension and Wells.) Money? I think Ishbia family wealth (Mat and Justin) is largely contingent on United Wholesale Mortgage, which hasn't been doing well.

Anyway 77.. I am focused on this season and this team, but I admit to being amused by your imagination.

UWMC is 85-90% Mat

The two brothers have also made over $6 billion alone in cash dividends that are separate from tumbling share prices over the last five years.

Justin is much smarter than his brother.

15 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said:

McCaskey can go f*** off. I hope Lake and Porter County residents enjoy the extra taxes and tolls they’ll be paying to give the Bears $1B for a stadium.

Hopefully the Sox stadium plans go more like Manseuto’s than McCaskey’s.

How it started

how it’s going

59 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

How it started

how it’s going

I mean that guy seems like a fucking idiot but how could you be duped by that, truly?

Imagine not having to address this, George

43 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Imagine not having to address this, George

This seems obvious. No other teams that play in other states have changed their name. The Jets and Giants both play in New Jersey for god's sake.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This seems obvious. No other teams that play in other states have changed their name. The Jets and Giants both play in New Jersey for god's sake.

The rumor that got out yesterday indicated the Bears were willing to add Indiana to their name. George is now fully caught between both sides muddying the water

3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

The rumor that got out yesterday indicated the Bears were willing to add Indiana to their name. George is now fully caught between both sides muddying the water

Ah, I missed that.

Bears Turn Up the Volume on Hammond Stadium Push

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/sports-recreation/ccb-chicago-bears-hammond-stadium-20260813/

"Warren today also rejected the idea that the team has had any missteps in its Illinois stadium search, which has included multiple pivots from looking at sites both downtown and outside the city."

Bwahahahahahaha! So, first Arlington Heights was their "sole focus" and then Chicago was and then Arlington Heights was again and now it's Hammond? Oh, and how about those secret meetings with the Mayor's office this spring that helped Brandon Johnson successfully derail any legislation IL lawmakers were working on. Does anyone believe Warren made no missteps in this multi-year debacle?

Say what you want about Jerry's brazen request for taxpayer money for another new Sox stadium, but at least he showed up in Springfield to meet with lawmakers in person unlike George and Kevin. Just move next to the refineries already, soak the IN taxpayers, and put a stop to this bullshit.

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by 77 Hitmen

21 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Bears Turn Up the Volume on Hammond Stadium Push

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/sports-recreation/ccb-chicago-bears-hammond-stadium-20260813/

"Warren today also rejected the idea that the team has had any missteps in its Illinois stadium search, which has included multiple pivots from looking at sites both downtown and outside the city."

Bwahahahahahaha! So, first Arlington Heights was their "sole focus" and then Chicago was and then Arlington Heights was again and now it's Hammond? Oh, and how about those secret meetings with the Mayor's office this spring that helped Brandon Johnson successfully derail any legislation IL lawmakers were working on. Does anyone believe Warren made no missteps in this multi-year debacle?

Say what you want about Jerry's brazen request for taxpayer money for another new Sox stadium, but at least he showed up in Springfield to meet with lawmakers in person unlike George and Kevin. Just move next to the refineries already, soak the IN taxpayers, and put a stop to this bullshit.