2 hours ago, DirtySox said:

Not that the White Sox are swimming in high value assets or anything, but just a reminder that zero top 100 prospects were moved at last season's trade deadline.

that’s okay; there are lots of intriguing  prospects who haven’t hit the top 100 lists.  Just avoid the rule 5 eligible guys (which is the profile of player they will want to send us).

15 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

that’s okay; there are lots of intriguing  prospects who haven’t hit the top 100 lists.  Just avoid the rule 5 eligible guys (which is the profile of player they will want to send us).

I’m not sure why we’d be against Rule 5 eligible prospects if they are close to major league ready.

8 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not sure why we’d be against Rule 5 eligible prospects if they are close to major league ready.

Generally, if that’s what they have, they will use them themselves. It’s the.AAAA close to the major variety that they will foist on us. 
or they will try to give us prospects still in the low minors who have to be rule five protected. 
in all, that they have to be rule five protected decreases their value

9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not sure why we’d be against Rule 5 eligible prospects if they are close to major league ready.

Not all but some. Some guys don’t get protected since there isn’t a chance they will get selected.

1 hour ago, GreenSox said:

Generally, if that’s what they have, they will use them themselves. It’s the.AAAA close to the major variety that they will foist on us. 
or they will try to give us prospects still in the low minors who have to be rule five protected. 
in all, that they have to be rule five protected decreases their value

Which is why they're a good pickup. Trading for top 10 guys who have a year or two before Rule 5 is the classic definition of buying high. 

12 hours ago, GreenSox said:

that’s okay; there are lots of intriguing  prospects who haven’t hit the top 100 lists.  Just avoid the rule 5 eligible guys (which is the profile of player they will want to send us).

3 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Generally, if that’s what they have, they will use them themselves. It’s the.AAAA close to the major variety that they will foist on us. 
or they will try to give us prospects still in the low minors who have to be rule five protected. 
in all, that they have to be rule five protected decreases their value

Guys in the low minors don't tend to need Rule 5 protection though. If they can't advance to higher levels after 5 years, the risk of losing them is low. Or aren't a huge loss if they do get taken. 

Not really sure what you're worried about in this line of thinking.

Edited July 22, 2025Jul 22 by Tnetennba

14 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Guys in the low minors don't tend to need Rule 5 protection though. If they can't advance to higher levels after 5 years, the risk of losing them is low. Or aren't a huge loss if they do get taken. 

Not really sure what you're worried about in this line of thinking.

Honestly?  With as crappy as the Sox roster is, they can actually afford to take on potential rule 5 guys as it's not like we don't have roster spots we can make.  If it is the best talent you get offered, take it.  We don't have a real roster crunch if we are actually willing to jettison the flotsam.

14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Honestly?  With as crappy as the Sox roster is, they can actually afford to take on potential rule 5 guys as it's not like we don't have roster spots we can make.  If it is the best talent you get offered, take it.  We don't have a real roster crunch if we are actually willing to jettison the flotsam.

Which is why I'm always baffled when they don't take full advantage of the Rule 5 draft. They should be scowering other orgs for 'diamond in the rough' types, even if its just for depth. Cuz it's not like the Sox have a loaded system overflowing with talent all needing roster spots.

11 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Which is why I'm always baffled when they don't take full advantage of the Rule 5 draft. They should be scowering other orgs for 'diamond in the rough' types, even if its just for depth. Cuz it's not like the Sox have a loaded system overflowing with talent all needing roster spots.

This year they really did a great job with it, both with Smith and claiming Vasil.

23 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

There’s just no reason for him to accept that. If a team buys out his option next year, he’ll sign a 1-year pillow deal to rebuild value.

Plus like I said, I doubt he really wants to be here anymore.

And Robert’s hiring of Scott Boras in January 2024 indicates that this will no doubt be his offseason plan.

22 hours ago, poppysox said:

What I do understand is if I used 20 M per year X 4 years you would claim that I was grossly overvaluing his worth.  Why don't you state his value as you see it and save everybody a lot of time.

Try reading the tea leaves.  Do you think Robert switched to Boras as his agent to sign what would be an inexpensive/team-friendly contract (4/$40)?  Robert is a player that no doubt has an ego and thinks he is the same guy from 2023.  Afterall, he did achieve that height in the recent past.  If he comes even close to a season like 2023 again, he is worth triple the contract you suggested, if not more.

10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

  Robert is a player that no doubt has an ego and thinks he is the same guy from 2023.  

Hes not taking 4/40 but I don't think this is true

 

According to an article in The Athletic, two clubs made "aggressive" attempts last week to secure Robert but we held back wanting better prospects. 

It was noted that league sources expect the market to heat up for him if he continues to hit and if not its possible we might keep him due to low payroll. 

I wonder what kind of offers were made and by whom. 

We sure could use a good CF prospect close to the majors.

 

Edited July 23, 2025Jul 23 by SoCalChiSox

9 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

According to an article in The Athletic, two clubs made "aggressive" attempts last week to secure Robert but we held back wanting better prospects. 

It was noted that league sources expect the market to heat up for him if he continues to hit and if not we might keep him due to low payroll. 

I wonder what kind of offers were made and by whom. 

We sure could use a good CF prospect close to the majors.

 

Which article are you referring to?

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Which article are you referring to?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6510085/2025/07/23/mlb-trade-deadline-rays-white-sox-updates/

Two clubs made aggressive attempts last week to land Luis Robert Jr., league sources said, but the Chicago White Sox wanted a better return of prospects.

League sources expect the market to further heat up for Robert, especially if he continues to hit. If not, in theory, it is possible that the White Sox could decide against trading Robert and pick up his $20 million club option for next season because of their low payroll. However, that would be a serious gamble on a player with health and production concerns.

An AL executive recently expressed some of that skepticism heading into the trade deadline: “What are you really getting?”

14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Which article are you referring to?

This one

Here's the Robert portion

Quote

Luis Robert Jr. drawing interest

Two clubs made aggressive attempts last week to land Luis Robert Jr., league sources said, but the Chicago White Sox wanted a better return of prospects. Indeed, Robert picked a fascinating time for a hot streak.

 

Through 10 games in July, Robert is 12-for-33 (.364 batting average) with two home runs and three stolen bases. He had a scheduled day off on Tuesday, and he missed the first week of the month due to a hamstring injury.

 

Robert’s overall numbers for this season remain subpar: .206 batting average, .636 OPS, 10 home runs in 323 plate appearances. Since last season, his trade stock has suffered because of poor results. Perhaps a late push helps the White Sox recoup some value.

 

Luis Robert Jr. outlook

Luis Robert Jr.

.206/.292/.344, 10 HR, 25 SB

$20MM club option in '26 and '27

Compared to some other center fielders in the trade market, such as Cedric Mullins (Baltimore Orioles) and Harrison Bader (Minnesota Twins), rival scouts still say Robert holds the greatest upside. He is 27 years old and is just two seasons removed from hitting 38 home runs.

 

League sources expect the market to further heat up for Robert, especially if he continues to hit. If not, in theory, it is possible that the White Sox could decide against trading Robert and pick up his $20 million club option for next season because of their low payroll. However, that would be a serious gamble on a player with health and production concerns.

 

An AL executive recently expressed some of that skepticism heading into the trade deadline: “What are you really getting?”

 

14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Which article are you referring to?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6510085/2025/07/23/mlb-trade-deadline-rays-white-sox-updates/

On 7/22/2025 at 7:06 AM, GreenSox said:

Generally, if that’s what they have, they will use them themselves. It’s the.AAAA close to the major variety that they will foist on us. 
or they will try to give us prospects still in the low minors who have to be rule five protected. 
in all, that they have to be rule five protected decreases their value

Weird timing to crap on Rule 5 picks with both Shane Smith and Mike Vasil on this roster.  Sure, I would prefer a younger prospect like Crawford but I’m not sure Robert is worth that much.

41 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Weird timing to crap on Rule 5 picks with both Shane Smith and Mike Vasil on this roster.  Sure, I would prefer a younger prospect like Crawford but I’m not sure Robert is worth that much.

I think he's just expressing distaste for the urgency of a guy who has to be rostered this offseason. I think that focusing on R5 or out-if-options guys is a way to get added value. 

I think the reality is we just need the best talent possible.  There is already a core starting to form at the major league level that’s burning service time, so guys who are close to ready can certainly help accelerate things.  At the same time, Getz is not trying to rush the broader org rebuild as evident by our recent draft having four overslot prep picks.  I would avoid guys out of options or kids who are far away but require Rule 5 protection, but otherwise 40 man roster status is fairly meaningless to us in the grand scheme of things for at least another year.

34 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I think he's just expressing distaste for the urgency of a guy who has to be rostered this offseason. I think that focusing on R5 or out-if-options guys is a way to get added value. 

You don’t have to add some guys that are eligible, as they still may need to develop and may not have any risk in getting picked (like someone who is signed when they’re 17 that has to be added like 4-5 years later).

I will repeat what I said previously, but I do think one of Sosa, Lee, & Martin could get moved.  I certainly don’t expect it, but to me, those are three guys who likely aren’t here by the end of the 2026 season and you start listening on them now in the event someone is willing to overpay.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45794701/2025-mlb-trade-deadline-preview-passan-rumors-intel-yankees-cubs-phillies-suarez-clase

Very detailed Jeff Passan piece regarding where things stand now for each and every team.

Robert/Houser

Wilson/Altavilla/Booser

No mention of Tauchman/Slater

Robert #40 in athletics top 50 trade pieces. Don't think anyone else made it

4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Weird timing to crap on Rule 5 picks with both Shane Smith and Mike Vasil on this roster.  Sure, I would prefer a younger prospect like Crawford but I’m not sure Robert is worth that much.

What??

That’s the whole point- we can get those slow-mover guys, the good ones, for free.   

And we aren’t short of our own decliners  - Charlotte’s full of them and we’ve been claiming them all season.  Again, for free