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7/28/2025 - Phils @ Sox, 6:40 CDT - Sanchez v. Martin

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It’s so ridiculous how they’re handling the young players.  Montgomery at 3B again after having one of the worst defensive games imaginable.  Teel sits against the RHP yesterday and then sits again today.

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20 minutes ago, fathom said:

It’s so ridiculous how they’re handling the young players.  Montgomery at 3B again after having one of the worst defensive games imaginable.  Teel sits against the RHP yesterday and then sits again today.

Sanchez is a LHP. 

I've had it beaten into my head that the only way a prospect can learn the MLB game is by being slotted into the starting lineup for a year and stays regardless of whether he's failing over and over. 

10 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Sanchez is a LHP. 

I've had it beaten into my head that the only way a prospect can learn the MLB game is by being slotted into the starting lineup for a year and stays regardless of whether he's failing over and over. 

Teel should have started yesterday and then let Quero play next two days.  As for Colson, this playing him at 3B so much is one of the more asinine things they’ve done (and that’s saying a lot!)

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14 minutes ago, fathom said:

Teel should have started yesterday and then let Quero play next two days.  As for Colson, this playing him at 3B so much is one of the more asinine things they’ve done (and that’s saying a lot!)

3B isn't that radical a change for a good defensive shortstop. They're not trying to "win" this year, so I don't see it as asinine for the Sox to play Monty at 3B in order to get Sosa as many at-bats before the TDL, if that's an urgency of theirs. 

39 minutes ago, fathom said:

It’s so ridiculous how they’re handling the young players.  Montgomery at 3B again after having one of the worst defensive games imaginable.  Teel sits against the RHP yesterday and then sits again today.

And if you saw him as a 3B, just play him there in the minors so he get the reps there.  Why wouldn't you have him learn this at an easier level?

18 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

3B isn't that radical a change for a good defensive shortstop. They're not trying to "win" this year, so I don't see it as asinine for the Sox to play Monty at 3B in order to get Sosa as many at-bats before the TDL, if that's an urgency of theirs. 

Getting Colson experience at SS should be the primary focus right now.  

9 minutes ago, fathom said:

Getting Colson experience at SS should be the primary focus right now.  

This is how I see it.  It isn't even like the dude who is playing SS is some incredible defensive whiz and/or long term stud for the Sox anyway.  Chase is a total future 2b or utility guy.

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is how I see it.  It isn't even like the dude who is playing SS is some incredible defensive whiz and/or long term stud for the Sox anyway.  Chase is a total future 2b or utility guy.

Put Vargas back to 3B and Sosa at 1B if you have to.  Let Montgomery and Meidroth get comfortable with their til positions.  

13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This is how I see it.  It isn't even like the dude who is playing SS is some incredible defensive whiz and/or long term stud for the Sox anyway.  Chase is a total future 2b or utility guy.

Yeah, it seems like they do it to get Lenyn into the lineup but you might as well just play him at 3B. Colson should be at SS every day until they decide he can't handle it or they acquire a better defensive SS prospect.

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16 minutes ago, fathom said:

Getting Colson experience at SS should be the primary focus right now.  

Colson has experience at SS. Perhaps they think getting multiple rookies at bats from positions where they collectively do the least damage is more important.

It may not be a pursuit you like, I just don't agree it's "asinine" or "colossally stupid". The Sox aren't the only team in the major leagues getting players exposure to multiple positions for flexibility. 

11 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Yeah, it seems like they do it to get Lenyn into the lineup but you might as well just play him at 3B. Colson should be at SS every day until they decide he can't handle it or they acquire a better defensive SS prospect.

Lenyn Sosa is the least likely of the four to be a future starter, so plug him in AFTER what is best for the guys in front of him.  DH/1B, hell get him a LF glove, it isn't like Benny is doing anything positive out there anyway.  

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Lenyn Sosa is the least likely of the four to be a future starter, so plug him in AFTER what is best for the guys in front of him.  DH/1B, hell get him a LF glove, it isn't like Benny is doing anything positive out there anyway.  

I've said the same. There will be at bats in the OF for him post-trade deadline, if he is still even here.

12 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Colson has experience at SS. Perhaps they think getting multiple rookies at bats from positions where they collectively do the least damage is more important.

It may not be a pursuit you like, I just don't agree it's "asinine" or "colossally stupid". The Sox aren't the only team in the major leagues getting players exposure to multiple positions for flexibility. 

Why do they need Colson to be flexible?  He’s supposed to be their SS for the next 4 years.

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13 minutes ago, fathom said:

Why do they need Colson to be flexible?  He’s supposed to be their SS for the next 4 years.

Baseball players don't develop from little league on knowing one position that they never move off from. Moving from SS to 3B isn't a traumatic move for a player. They have 3 shortstops moving through the system, and they just drafted 4 more. In a season where they'll lose 100 games, I'm not sure what the problem is with moving guys around to see where they fit better. 

1 hour ago, fathom said:

It’s so ridiculous how they’re handling the young players.  Montgomery at 3B again after having one of the worst defensive games imaginable.  Teel sits against the RHP yesterday and then sits again today.

It's almost as if those in charge don't have fucking clue what they are doing.

26 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Colson has experience at SS. Perhaps they think getting multiple rookies at bats from positions where they collectively do the least damage is more important.

It may not be a pursuit you like, I just don't agree it's "asinine" or "colossally stupid". The Sox aren't the only team in the major leagues getting players exposure to multiple positions for flexibility. 

Smart orgs tend to have kids work on positional flexibility in the minors, not throw a guy into a new position they've never played before in the majors. Yes, Montgomery played like 5 games at 3B in Charlotte, but that's not a large enough sample to consider him experienced.

20 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Smart orgs tend to have kids work on positional flexibility in the minors, not throw a guy into a new position they've never played before in the majors. Yes, Montgomery played like 5 games at 3B in Charlotte, but that's not a large enough sample to consider him experienced.

Especially because he defense has been questioned since the day he was drafted.  It's not like got her and Sax'd it up.  If you intend him to play somewhere else at the major league level, let him learn it the minors along the way.  Even a couple of days a week at 3B would have been something.

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2 hours ago, fathom said:

It’s so ridiculous how they’re handling the young players.  Montgomery at 3B again after having one of the worst defensive games imaginable.  Teel sits against the RHP yesterday and then sits again today.

These overreactions to a bad defensive game are crazy to me.  We are rebuilding, not trying to make the last wild card spot.  Unfortunately, young players are going to do dumb stuff and make mistakes.  Such is part of the learning process.  You don’t cut bait early on or change your plan because they have some defensive struggles in year 1.

I also don’t think Colson splitting time at 3B in the majors is a sign of incompetence from a player development standpoint.  If you feel that he should get the reps at SS over Meidroth, I am very much open to having that debate.  But I think playing some 3B after years of playing SS is not an egregious ask.  Yes, there are some differences, but this isn’t like when we threw Andrew Vaughn in the OF with zero experience.  IMO, the shift should have almost zero bearing on the development of the rest of his game.

As for Teel, it’s simply the “can’t play a catcher in a day game after catching a night game” BS.  That being said, let’s not pretend this isn’t something every Sox manger has done in our lifetimes and many managers from other orgs do.  The real issue is refusing to play Quero and Teel in the same game because of the “we can’t risk losing our DH in event of injury” BS.  And even there, I’m willing to wait and see what happens post trade deadline.  If Getz refuses to have them both play after the OF glut has been dealt with, then I will rip these guys to shreds for having such a dumb plan.

I truly don’t think Colson playing 3b was part of their plan. It’s a reaction to Rojas being awful at 3b and Sosa bad at 1b.

Next thing you know, Getz will say they’re playing Montgomery at 3b cause they drafted Carlson.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Especially because he defense has been questioned since the day he was drafted.  It's not like got her and Sax'd it up.  If you intend him to play somewhere else at the major league level, let him learn it the minors along the way.  Even a couple of days a week at 3B would have been something.

His ability to stick at SS was questioned, not his long term ability to play 3B.  They gave him pretty much every opportunity to get better at SS.  3B has always been the backup plan and one that shouldn’t have required an overly difficult transition.  We also have no idea whatsoever on if he got reps at 3B during practice, both in the minors and at the major league level.  They could have easily been working on this behinds the scenes.  There is plenty of stuff rip the Sox on, but asking a guy to slide over from SS to 3B is super low on my areas of concern right now.

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

His ability to stick at SS was questioned, not his long term ability to play 3B.  They gave him pretty much every opportunity to get better at SS.  3B has always been the backup plan and one that shouldn’t have required an overly difficult transition.  We also have no idea whatsoever on if he got reps at 3B during practice, both in the minors and at the major league level.  They could have easily been working on this behinds the scenes.  There is plenty of stuff rip the Sox on, but asking a guy to slide over from SS to 3B is super low on my areas of concern right now.

That makes no sense…they gave him every chance to get better and he was playing well at this level at that position?  Why move him off after 10 games?

13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

His ability to stick at SS was questioned, not his long term ability to play 3B.  They gave him pretty much every opportunity to get better at SS.  3B has always been the backup plan and one that shouldn’t have required an overly difficult transition.  We also have no idea whatsoever on if he got reps at 3B during practice, both in the minors and at the major league level.  They could have easily been working on this behinds the scenes.  There is plenty of stuff rip the Sox on, but asking a guy to slide over from SS to 3B is super low on my areas of concern right now.

So just stick him at 3B and leave him there. Stop going back and forth then.

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