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Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets

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27 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Yes, supposedly.  So it could just be Pereira in CF and Baldwin in RF instead…  at least until Montgomery is called up to bump Baldwin back into a utility role.

I’d definitely add a veteran OF if we end up moving Robert.  I love me some Brooks Baldwin and want to see him get everyday at-bats whether in one spot or moved across the field.  He put up a 119 wRC+ after July 1st and should be given a chance to improve his defense in the OF.  Pereira is an interesting low stakes gamble, but I would not just hand him a job.  Pencil him in as a platoon partner for someone (Baldwin for now) and make him force his way into more playing time.  If Robert goes, see if you can find another Tauchman like guy on the cheap.

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  • They don’t have anywhere near enough pitching to compete if they kept Robert. None of this is about 2026. 

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    According to whom? 

  • The problem is, if you commit to him being full-time DH, you’re relegating Quero to the bench. And I’d rather rotate the catchers there to get them the most at bats in a lost season.

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’d definitely add a veteran OF if we end up moving Robert.  I love me some Brooks Baldwin and want to see him get everyday at-bats whether in one spot or moved across the field.  He put up a 119 wRC+ after July 1st and should be given a chance to improve his defense in the OF.  Pereira is an interesting low stakes gamble, but I would not just hand him a job.  Pencil him in as a platoon partner for someone (Baldwin for now) and make him force his way into more playing time.  If Robert goes, see if you can find another Tauchman like guy on the cheap.

I still think they’re a good fit for a guy like Bleday.

 

 

 

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Oh god the Mets again 

11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

 

 

 

This is the second time this Acuna rumor has popped up.  Can someone explain to me Getz’s obsession with this no bat scrub?  He put up only a .751 OPS in the minors for cripes sake.  The only thing he has going for him is youth.  He turns 24 in March.  There’s a reason he is in every Mets trade rumor and they are probably dying to trade him.  I’d rather roll the dice on younger prospect than this guy.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

16 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

 

 

 

I feel like only way that happens 1-for-1 is Sox kicking in barely any money. Just tell teams you’ll include at least half and send best offers.

10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This is the second time this Acuna rumor has popped up.  Can someone explain to me Getz’s obsession with this no bat scrub?  He put up only a .751 OPS in the minors for cripes sake.

If they could get him to make better swing decisions, they'd have a CF with a lot of speed. As it is, he profiles as a utility dude. 

FanGraphs - New York Mets Top 45 Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball

Signed: July 2nd Period, 2018 from Venezuela (TEX)
Age 23.3 Height 5′ 8″ Weight 181 Bat / Thr R / R FV 45
Tool Grades (Present/Future)
Hit Raw Power Game Power Run Fielding Throw
30/40 50/55 30/45 60/60 50/60 45

Originally signed by Texas and then traded for future Hall of Famer Max Scherzer at the 2023 deadline, Acuña made his big league debut in 2024 and was essentially the team’s everyday second baseman this year, with the occasional rep at shortstop or third base, before he was sent down just before list publication. He graduates from rookie status projecting as a good utilityman. Acuña’s best swings are blazingly fast for an athlete his size, though he’s sometimes out of control and pulls off a ton of soft stuff away from him to generate all that power. He has an inside-out approach and tends to only be able to spray fastballs to the opposite field. He’ll likely hit for less game power than he has raw because of his approach. On a contender, he has the offensive skill set of a luxury utilityman.

Acuña came up as a shortstop and has experience all over the diamond, but at the big league level, he has mostly played second base. In anticipation of the infield logjam ahead of him, both the Rangers (Seager and Semien) and Mets (Lindor and McNeil) gave Acuña some center field reps during the past couple of seasons, though barely any in 2025. When he last saw frequent action out there (2024), he looked pretty good despite having not played the position for very long. He’s much more comfortable breaking right than left, and has plus closing speed. While his hands can be clumsy, Acuña has the arm for any infield position; his exchange can be a little slow, but his pure arm strength is plus. He projects into a Dylan Moore sort of utility role.

 
 
8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

If they could get him to make better swing decisions, they'd have a CF with a lot of speed. As it is, he profiles as a utility dude. 

FanGraphs - New York Mets Top 45 Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball

Signed: July 2nd Period, 2018 from Venezuela (TEX)
Age 23.3 Height 5′ 8″ Weight 181 Bat / Thr R / R FV 45
Tool Grades (Present/Future)
Hit Raw Power Game Power Run Fielding Throw
30/40 50/55 30/45 60/60 50/60 45

Originally signed by Texas and then traded for future Hall of Famer Max Scherzer at the 2023 deadline, Acuña made his big league debut in 2024 and was essentially the team’s everyday second baseman this year, with the occasional rep at shortstop or third base, before he was sent down just before list publication. He graduates from rookie status projecting as a good utilityman. Acuña’s best swings are blazingly fast for an athlete his size, though he’s sometimes out of control and pulls off a ton of soft stuff away from him to generate all that power. He has an inside-out approach and tends to only be able to spray fastballs to the opposite field. He’ll likely hit for less game power than he has raw because of his approach. On a contender, he has the offensive skill set of a luxury utilityman.

Acuña came up as a shortstop and has experience all over the diamond, but at the big league level, he has mostly played second base. In anticipation of the infield logjam ahead of him, both the Rangers (Seager and Semien) and Mets (Lindor and McNeil) gave Acuña some center field reps during the past couple of seasons, though barely any in 2025. When he last saw frequent action out there (2024), he looked pretty good despite having not played the position for very long. He’s much more comfortable breaking right than left, and has plus closing speed. While his hands can be clumsy, Acuña has the arm for any infield position; his exchange can be a little slow, but his pure arm strength is plus. He projects into a Dylan Moore sort of utility role.

 
 

Exactly my point.  He looks like a utility guy.  He didn’t hit in the minors.  I’d rather roll the dice on younger prospects.

24 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Exactly my point.  He looks like a utility guy.  He didn’t hit in the minors.  I’d rather roll the dice on younger prospects.

While Robert might be one of the best CF options on the market this winter, I still don't think he's going to bring back all that much. And Acuña's only 23

46 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

 

 

 

Big Red Dog or bust!

I’m trying to find out if Michael Marino is credible or even a real person. 

9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Big Red Dog or bust!

Yes

Rays sign Mullins to 1 year deal

43 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

While Robert might be one of the best CF options on the market this winter, I still don't think he's going to bring back all that much. And Acuña's only 23

He was at the break too.

52 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Rays sign Mullins to 1 year deal

So the Sox probably have to pick up $10M-$13M on Robert's contract. 

 

 

24 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

So the Sox probably have to pick up $10M-$13M on Robert's contract. 

 

 

Robert is a far more valuable player IMO

27 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

So the Sox probably have to pick up $10M-$13M on Robert's contract. 

 

 

That doesn't make any sense...even to Getz.

If it was more than $10 they would have just given him the buyout and moved on.

Edited by caulfield12

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

While Robert might be one of the best CF options on the market this winter, I still don't think he's going to bring back all that much. And Acuña's only 23

He’ll turn 24 on March 12th before the season starts.  Still not very old but he is looking like a broken prospect à la Vargas and Mead at this point, and I would avoid him like the plague.  Also, to think the Sox could be the team to fix his swing would be foolhardy.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I’m trying to find out if Michael Marino is credible or even a real person. 

You may be on to something.  Although some people in this Reddit thread seem to think he has sources.  I guess he may be no different than some “White Sox insiders”.

 

Edited by WhiteSox2023

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

You may be on to something.  Although some people in this Reddit thread seem to think he has sources.  I guess he may be no different than some “White Sox insiders”.

 

It wasn't really a scoop. The Mets reportedly have kicked the tires on Robert this off-season. He's only recalling that Acuña's name came up in previous discussions. 

7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

It wasn't really a scoop. The Mets reportedly have kicked the tires on Robert this off-season. He's only recalling that Acuña's name came up in previous discussions. 

Yes, Acuna’s name came up well before last year’s trade deadline I believe.

3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This is the second time this Acuna rumor has popped up.  Can someone explain to me Getz’s obsession with this no bat scrub?  He put up only a .751 OPS in the minors for cripes sake.  The only thing he has going for him is youth.  He turns 24 in March.  There’s a reason he is in every Mets trade rumor and they are probably dying to trade him.  I’d rather roll the dice on younger prospect than this guy.

Getzy knows this isn't the good Acuña, right?

Edited by Tnetennba

I would need at least one of Baty, Vientos, Benge, or Sproat in return 

I know Robert is hurt a lot but if they’re not getting anybody that doesn’t at least have a higher ceiling, it’s really not worth trading Robert then. I’d rather lose him for nothing than just trade him for the sake of trading him. 

If no-bat utility guys were the best we could get for Robert at the deadline, I can't imagine the offers will be better now with a $20M price tag.

1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:

Getzy knows this isn't the good Acuña, right?

Let's just say we have a type. 

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